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re: Bruce Lee vs NFL lineman
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:20 pm to boom roasted
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:20 pm to boom roasted
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How does one go about shattering someone's knee with a kick? In all my years of watching MMA and kickboxing, I can't think of a single fight ending in a knee strike. In fact, leg kicks are often checked with the knee. Hell, that's how Weidman finished Anderson.
Only fight that comes to mind that's even close, is Le Banner vs Bernardo where Le Banner finished him with a leg kick that buckled the knee. But that wasn't a knee strike.
Because the fights you are watching are sporting events , not actual fights.
If you REALLY want to take someone's knee out, you don't kick the front of their knee. The knee naturally has strength to withstand that, instead you snap kick to the side of the knee. Same principle has knee injuries in football, most of the time they are due to a hit from the side, less often so from the front.
I don't care how big a guy is if someone like Bruce Lee kick them full force in the side of the knee, it's fight over.
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Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:28 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:Did you not read what I said. Kickboxers check leg kicks with their knee. They intentionally absorb the kick with their knee. One would expect to see more fights end with knee injury if it were that easy to shatter a knee with a kick.
If you REALLY want to take someone's knee out, you don't kick the front of their knee.
ETA: General question. Do you watch MMA or kickboxing or muay thai?
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:31 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:
How does one go about shattering someone's knee with a kick? In all my years of watching MMA and kickboxing, I can't think of a single fight ending in a knee strike. In fact, leg kicks are often checked with the knee. Hell, that's how Weidman finished Anderson.
Only fight that comes to mind that's even close, is Le Banner vs Bernardo where Le Banner finished him with a leg kick that buckled the knee. But that wasn't a knee strike.
Anderson Silva broke his own leg with a kick...
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:32 pm to boom roasted
quote:
Did you not read what I said. Kickboxers check leg kicks with their knee. They intentionally absorb the kick with their knee. One would expect to see more fights end with knee injury if it were that easy to shatter a knee with a kick.
ETA: General question. Do you watch MMA or kickboxing or muay thai?
Because what you are watching is not a fight designed to cripple a person, you are watching a sport.
Those MMA guys are trained and yes if they wanted to, they could most certainly destroy a guy's knee, but it's hard to get future fights if you get a reputation as someone who destroys knees.
Put that MMA fighter in the street and his life on the line and no one is going to be absorbing their kicks with their knees.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:35 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:They are already smashing the opponent's knee with their shin/foot. If they were trying to cripple someone, what would they do differently?
Because what you are watching is not a fight designed to cripple a person, you are watching a sport.
quote:Jon Jones attacks the knee with a front side kick. He had no problem getting fights. It's a strategy. Some call it dirty, but it's legal.
Those MMA guys are trained and yes if they wanted to, they could most certainly destroy a guy's knee, but it's hard to get future fights if you get a reputation as someone who destroys knees.
quote:Why not? Tell me why it would be different.
Put that MMA fighter in the street and his life on the line and no one is going to be absorbing their kicks with their knees.
ETA: Do you watch MMA or kickboxing or muay thai? No offense, but it sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:37 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:He broke it on Weidman's knee... as Weidman was checking the kick. Obviously a broken leg wasn't the expected outcome, but Weidman said he was trying to do that.
Anderson Silva broke his own leg with a kick...
Fighters check kicks with their knee all the time.
Click here for an explanation. Google searching for "weidman leg check" will give you all sorts of results explaining checking leg kicks with the knee.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 8/15/18 at 2:37 pm to Jim Rockford
Bruce would have his friend Chuck take him out...
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:07 pm to MojoGuyPan
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Bruce Lee would've been a phenomenal pass rusher at OLB in a 3-4 defense.
With his quickness, hand speed and martial arts skill he'd shed lineman at will. Especially some slow 340 pound mother. Think Pat Swilling on Benzedrine, Lawrence Taylor on both coke and meth. That's what we're talking about here. He'd make lineman look silly.
This is EXACTLY what you're suggesting Bruce Lee would be. 5'6" tall, 170 lb, mongoose quick and lightning fast.
That's right, that's Trindon Holliday. I blame Pellini, Mallory, Peveto, Chief, and every pro coordinator he's worked with for never lining him up at linebacker.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 8/15/18 at 3:55 pm to TigerstuckinMS
Posted on 8/15/18 at 7:56 pm to MWP
I didn’t mean the art as a whole
I was referring to the individual themselves
I was referring to the individual themselves
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:13 pm to Jim Rockford
Y'all must be too young to remember the early days of MMA. Royce Gracie was the most boring fighter I've ever seen but size was utterly irrelevant against him.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:44 pm to DeafJam73
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Don’t underestimate the ability of NFL linemen. They are some seriously tough sons of bitches and can generate and an enormous amount of power. And, they are quick on their feet.
This.
People seem to think NFL offensive linemen are all fat slobs. They might be, in the context of other professional football players. But they’re still (freakishly large) pro athletes with better strength, endurance, and quickness than 99.9% of the population.
The AVERAGE offensive tackle in the NFL is around 6’5” 315 lb, and most starters run around a 5.0-5.2 at the combine. VERY few guys who think they are in great shape can run that fast (everyone thinks they can though...), much less 315 lb dudes.
Point being that these are genetic freaks we are talking about.. raw strength and athleticism matters in a fight.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 8/15/18 at 9:54 pm to Jim Rockford
A 3-4 OLB like James Harrison in his prime, or a rush DE like Charles Haley in his prime would be a danger to anyone. Most OL couldn't catch him to do anything.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:17 pm to Jim Rockford
Bruce Lee was 130 lbs. A strong jab from a 200+ lb man would hurt him.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:51 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:You have absolutely no fricking clue what you’re talking about.
Because what you are watching is not a fight designed to cripple a person, you are watching a sport.
Those MMA guys are trained and yes if they wanted to, they could most certainly destroy a guy's knee, but it's hard to get future fights if you get a reputation as someone who destroys knees.
Put that MMA fighter in the street and his life on the line and no one is going to be absorbing their kicks with their knees.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:55 pm to Henry Jones Jr
quote:1. How skilled was he? How do you know how skilled he was? How many fights have you seen him in?
Someone as skilled as Bruce Lee was in martial arts wouldn't have a problem doing it. People forget that Lee was abnormally strong.
2. I have watched heavyweight kickboxers and Muay Thai fighters (who are way more powerful than Bruce Lee was) kick the ever-loving shite out of each other - knees included. And I’ve never seen anyone ever get their knee shattered.
This post was edited on 8/15/18 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 8/15/18 at 11:02 pm to teke184
Bruce Lee is an actor Demetrius Johnson would choke out any NFL lineman with ease 100/100.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 11:11 pm to chinese58
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A 3-4 OLB like James Harrison in his prime, or a rush DE like Charles Haley in his prime would be a danger to anyone.
what danger would they pose Demetrius Johnson? They miss the first punch they throw and he jumps on their back and chokes them out. There is 0% chance of any other outcome
Posted on 8/15/18 at 11:16 pm to VerlanderBEAST
You thought Rousey would beat nfl LBers...
Posted on 8/15/18 at 11:51 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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