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Posted on 8/12/18 at 8:30 am to Laman1978
You seemingly being a Saints fan should know that isn't necessarily true. Jimmy Graham is a marginal (at best) blocker and he created mismatches all the time with the Saints. Based on how Sean Payton would line him up. Even if teams don't respect him as a blocker and run nickel/dime packages, you'll still most likely have a 5'10/6ft. db on a 6'6/6'7 te/wr(mismatch). There are formations you could run the ball with and have block where he gets safety assignment.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:24 am to MrBrutus
Moreau has shown toughness and good hands. He would be a good weapon to have. Pettigrew was showing that he could do that too.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:28 am to NoGeaux
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How do you think we “hide” him? Don’t you think opposing DC’s when they see him come in will account for him as a WR?
If they bring in a CB, then you run. If they leave an LB in, you pass.
You don’t have to hide shite.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:29 am to TigerStick
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If they bring in a CB, then you run. If they leave an LB in, you pass.
You don’t have to hide shite.
Right. Just because the mismatch is known to the defense it doesn't make it less of a mismatch.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:52 am to Powerman
Exactly. You don't just "run your plays". You attack their adjustments... or lack thereof.
Personnel grouping, based on down/distance or anything else, is an adjustment. A very common one, but one nonetheless.
Personnel grouping, based on down/distance or anything else, is an adjustment. A very common one, but one nonetheless.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 9:52 am to Powerman
Those who review college games will see that the TE is open damn near every route. The question is getting them the ball. Short crossing routes are money, please utilize the TE this year.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 10:01 am to doubleb
Yes, was very disappointed to hear Pettigrew had gotten hurt, I thought he was going to be a nightmare matchup this year.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 11:47 am to Gus007
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Do you remember Josh Reed sitting on the bench while Craig Nall and another walk on QB were being used as WR because the starter had stolen a purse and was suspended.
Who was the genius that failed to use Reed.
dont compare sullivan to josh reed
This post was edited on 8/12/18 at 11:49 am
Posted on 8/12/18 at 12:05 pm to TOPAL
If they put a safety or db on him we have a run mismatch. If they have a linebacker on him then it's coverage mismatch. I like the move.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 12:08 pm to TOPAL
With the Saints influence in our offensive planning, think Jimmie Graham plays.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 12:28 pm to TOPAL
If he’s only a TE onnpass plays what makes him a TE?
Posted on 8/12/18 at 12:31 pm to TOPAL
I stand corrected Sullivan, not being able make the 1’s as a WR or TE is Jimmy Graham-like.
Coach O is better than Sean Payton when it comes to using 2nd or 3rd string TE’s.
Thank you all for educating me.
Coach O is better than Sean Payton when it comes to using 2nd or 3rd string TE’s.
Thank you all for educating me.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 12:34 pm to SammyTiger
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If he’s only a TE onnpass plays what makes him a TE?
Not worth it go with the flow. It’s pure genius.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 12:40 pm to des4271
He’s basically taking a Pettigrew spot. He’s only 5 lbs lighter than him. I think it’s a good choice because it gets Sullivan on the field more
Posted on 8/12/18 at 12:51 pm to des4271
quote:Against DEs and LBs, and he had about 40lbs on Sullivan.
Jimmy Graham is a marginal (at best) blocker
quote:You'd have the same matchup at WR. Do they magically shrink once he's moved to the TE position?
Even if teams don't respect him as a blocker and run nickel/dime packages, you'll still most likely have a 5'10/6ft. db on a 6'6/6'7 te/wr(mismatch).
Posted on 8/12/18 at 1:00 pm to CP3LSU25
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ont compare sullivan to josh reed
Josh reed was a running back that never saw the field.
I watched the spring game and saw him catching passes out of the backfield, saw him break tackles, and make defenders miss. When Larry Foster was suspended we had no backup WRs, I remembered Josh Reeds performance in the spring game and suggested that he be used as a WR. Later Josh Booty suggested it to the coaching staff. The rest is history.
You don't know crap just a negatiger.
Hell Sullivan may find his niche. With good coaching he may develop into a threat
At least we can hope.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 1:17 pm to Lsualum2017
Sullivan is just built different
Look at them.
You think Sullivan is blocking DLs or LBs?
If he can’t do that, then the other team isn’t going to treat him as a TE so we’ll see DBs covering him.
So no bigger miss match than putting him out there as a WR
Look at them.
You think Sullivan is blocking DLs or LBs?
If he can’t do that, then the other team isn’t going to treat him as a TE so we’ll see DBs covering him.
So no bigger miss match than putting him out there as a WR
Posted on 8/12/18 at 1:35 pm to Laman1978
No they don't shrink, my point is you have a mismatch whether a defense schemes for him or not. If you go 4 db's and you have 2wr's in the game with him then you have a lb/safety on him(mismatch speed-wise and/or maybe size) , if defense goes nickel or dime you have size advantage. He wasn't utilized in that capacity last year. We got a glimpse of it in spring game when he caught a couple of jump balls on the sideline against smaller db's. That's called player/talent utilization.
I agree about Pettigrew, that dude was primed for a breakout year. Sullivan could still be in that capacity, just not as good of a blocker.
You made my point about Graham, wasn't a good blocker against DE or LB but could handle safeties in the run game. Same is true for Sullivan, he blocked pretty decent last year on jet sweeps against db's. That was my point in previous post to you. Whether Sullivan is in as sole te or part of 2 te sets, you can run/throw from them with him blocking/catching in those formations, just need to have him block db's based on blocking schemes.
I agree about Pettigrew, that dude was primed for a breakout year. Sullivan could still be in that capacity, just not as good of a blocker.
You made my point about Graham, wasn't a good blocker against DE or LB but could handle safeties in the run game. Same is true for Sullivan, he blocked pretty decent last year on jet sweeps against db's. That was my point in previous post to you. Whether Sullivan is in as sole te or part of 2 te sets, you can run/throw from them with him blocking/catching in those formations, just need to have him block db's based on blocking schemes.
Posted on 8/12/18 at 1:38 pm to SammyTiger
Sullivan is not goin to be used like a traditional TE he’s goin to be used the way the Saints use their TE, that’s why our coaching staff went to study with them. Their goin to put Sullivan on the inside a lot with Giles/Jefferson/Chase on the outside. It’s just another way to have him in the field and create mismatches.
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