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re: Would you want your son to major in a liberal arts degree?

Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:49 am to
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:49 am to
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Sure but it doesn't matter what they go to school for because they only work for like 5 years after graduation.


Baw, you married the wrong girl.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30676 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:51 am to
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One of the best times of my life was serving tables/cooking at a restaurant and I made jack shite. I’m not sure if I’ll ever be as consistently happy as I was then.

What? Serving tables sucks. Nothing worse than having to suck up to every random idiot that sits at your table bc they completely control your pay
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15211 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:55 am to
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What? Serving tables sucks. Nothing worse than having to suck up to every random idiot that sits at your table bc they completely control your pay


In certain liberal states (i.e. Washington, Oregon and California) if some of them get their way, servers, bartenders, bussers, etc will all make $15/hour before you tip them.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
39236 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:57 am to
i have a BA in history, but that was a long time ago
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He said that becoming a plumber is a much wiser choice than wasting time on a useless degree like Global Studies at NYU.

100% true...if i knew then what i know now i'd definitely have become a plumber
Posted by JDogg33
Member since Oct 2017
405 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:30 am to
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was interested in patent until found out not eligible


The USPTO is a very rigid organization
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39194 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:33 am to
College should not be for a vo-tec degree. Study what you love and do it well.Your education should set you up for a life of success, not just a job.
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15211 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:33 am to
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The USPTO is a very rigid organization


I think it only interested him when he saw what starting salary was for a patent lawyer.

He is more interested in working for a sports team than he would have been if patent law was on the table for him.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
34719 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:36 am to
Like a previous poster, I have a BA in History, however in my mid 30's I went back to college and got a BS in Professional Accountancy and a CPA, best thing I ever did
Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
5184 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:36 am to
Short answer, no way in hell.

Longer answer, my son is an incoming freshman in the honors college at LSU. His summer reading is about how guns are evil and how the NRA is to blame for all gun violence. No where in this book does it lay responsibility on the user of the gun. Supposedly, there will be an open debate on the book.
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15211 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:41 am to
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His summer reading is about how guns are evil and how the NRA is to blame for all gun violence. No where in this book does it lay responsibility on the user of the gun. Supposedly, there will be an open debate on the book.


Which class is this? I don't know if they would allow me to take it, but I would gladly go to school for just this debate alone.

I did have a teacher years ago in Eng 2000 give me just low enough of a "C" on the final paper to drop by grade to a "B" because she did not like my paper (nothing wrong grammatically, etc). We had to pick a controversial topic and write a persuasive piece one way or the other on the topic. When I picked AR-15s, she was not expecting the paper I wrote.

I know, I know. Dumb of me to pick a topic a liberal English professor would vehemently not agree with.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40346 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:41 am to
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Sure but it doesn't matter what they go to school for because they only work for like 5 years after graduation.



You are going to get downvoted into oblivion but I bet there is a study out there somewhere that proves this to be nominally true.

Sounds like a good topic for a fresh thread from Pecker.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59669 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:43 am to
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A friends son got a 36 on his act. Went to an art school in Memphis and took out student loans. Has his degree and is now working at a hobby lobby framing pictures for not much more than minimum wage. So no I wouldn’t.

Sounds like your friend's son became a pothead and became unmotivated instead of trying to use his degree to further himself.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:47 am to
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You are going to get downvoted into oblivion but I bet there is a study out there somewhere that proves this to be nominally true.

Sounds like a good topic for a fresh thread from Pecker.

It depends on the profession, but many women work for a few years, have kids and then do everything they can to never go back to work (if their husbands make decent enough money, of course ) It's why women in law, accounting, engineering, etc., get passed up for raises, promotions and partnerships. It's not that they hate women. These can be incredibly qualified and talented women. It's just that no one really trusts that they want to make a career out of it.

My wife sees this a lot at her firm. Women complain about not getting opportunities. Then they get pregnant and are never seen again.

This isn't actually an indictment of women. Many women work their whole lives out of necessity. There simply isn't enough money available without a second income. I only say this to contrast their general attitudes with men's. Men work because it's in their blood. It's what they were made to do. A man without work is a man without purpose. There have been a lot of studies on men who don't have work and go into deep depression, and the causes for this. Women are perfectly happy to not work. It's the natural order of things. There are exceptions, as with anything. But generally speaking this is true.
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 9:56 am
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81325 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:52 am to
It is a tricky subject.

A specialized degree is obviously much more valuable, and I would really hope my hypothetical son/daughter was interested and intelligent enough to pursue something like engineering or something in the medical field.

However, some kids just aren't cut out for that. I certainly wasn't. But there's a smart way to go about getting a liberal arts degree.

Me: I have had a job since I was 15 years old. Throughout college, it was expected for me to work. I had a very good paid internship in my field, which led to an entry level job in my field, which led to a slight bump higher. The experience I started getting from a young age helped me secure jobs. PLUS, every single job I've had has been via knowing someone.

Between working in the service industry for extra cash, meeting people at my internship, meeting people through here, etc.. I've gotten every job from a personal connection. Now, I have a job I adore and I do fine.

Childhood friend: Went into school for pre-dental stuff. She has never been an honor roll student and she never cared about math/science. She wanted to be an orthodontist since we were kids, but the girl never spoke a single word about teeth. She wanted it because she saw it was good money, and never explored other options.

Two years into college, she couldn't handle the coursework and switched to psychology. Throughout college, she was never forced by her parents to have a job. So when she graduated and began looking for work, she went 2 years without finding something. She finally found an entry level desk job at a law firm, but when she was ready to leave that, she again went a very long time unable to find another job.

Zero connections and an entirely blank resume is a big deal.

Liberal arts may not be my first suggestion to a college student, but you can certainly work yourself into a hirable employee by networking correctly.
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 9:53 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:56 am to
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Longer answer, my son is an incoming freshman in the honors college at LSU. His summer reading is about how guns are evil and how the NRA is to blame for all gun violence. No where in this book does it lay responsibility on the user of the gun. Supposedly, there will be an open debate on the book.


Maybe the assignor of the book realizes that the author has an extreme take and wants to students to be able to calmly hear them and and then clearly state why it's not reasonable.

But to you simple frickers it's because they're SJW libtards and want to pollute our youth.
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15211 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:59 am to
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Maybe the assignor of the book realizes that the author has an extreme take and wants to students to be able to calmly hear them and and then clearly state why it's not reasonable.

But to you simple frickers it's because they're SJW libtards and want to pollute our youth.


How much you want to bet this is not the case? I'll let you pick the amount
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:01 am to
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How much you want to bet this is not the case? I'll let you pick the amount


The fact that you can't even consider that it may be something more than someone just making the students read what they agree with tells me all I need to know.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81325 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:01 am to
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How much you want to bet this is not the case? I'll let you pick the amount



You retards conflate seeing ANY opinion different than your own as "shoving down your throats". It is kinda hilarious but also sad.

You know, when I was starting college everyone told me they were going to be shoving atheism down my throat and would turn me into a ~NON BELIEVER~. I'm a nonbeliever alright, but college had zero to do with that.

I never once sat in a class where the teacher went on and on about how Jesus isn't real, although I was told it would happen everywhere I turn.

Chances are, some over enthusiastically religious folks heard mere REFERENCES to something besides christianity and lost their shite.
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 10:06 am
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15211 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:03 am to
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The fact that you can't even consider that it may be something more than someone just making the students read what they agree with tells me all I need to know.


The fact you think the teacher assigned this because the author is too extreme and wants an honest discussion of how it is not reasonable tells me all I need to know.

Again, name the amount. There is 0% chance I lose this one.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:04 am to
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What? Serving tables sucks. Nothing worse than having to suck up to every random idiot that sits at your table bc they completely control your pay


It’s almost like people have different preferences and temperaments.
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