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Did the US conquer and oppress Hawaii?

Posted on 7/26/18 at 1:39 pm
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/26/18 at 1:39 pm
it seems they didnt want to be annexed.
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
65511 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 1:40 pm to
Everyone in the US is oppressed

#staywoke
Posted by Jackie Chan
Japan?
Member since Sep 2012
4686 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 1:41 pm to
The Dole produce company conquered Hawaii first.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98420 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 1:41 pm to
They overthrew a sovereign nation at the behest of Dole and a few other ballers.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 1:43 pm to
Rule of thumb. If you claim a piece of land that is beautiful or has a excess of resources and you live in straw huts while worshiping the sun; your arse is getting conquered. Just a factor of time.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
4947 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 1:43 pm to
Let's be honest man, there isn't a land on earth that wasn't taken from someone.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59618 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 1:44 pm to
I hope so. Those locals are assholes.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32817 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 1:49 pm to
I hope someone conquers you and oppresses your posting privileges soon.
Posted by convertedtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
2786 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 1:58 pm to
I believe other countries did this,like France, long before the US got involved. We just came in and now "protect" them .
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28114 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 2:01 pm to
They aren't White, so yes, the White devils oppressed them
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13267 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 2:06 pm to
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it seems they didnt want to be annexed.

Well too bad. If we decide they need some freedom, they're gonna get some damn freedom.

They got statehood AND a shitload of Spam out of it. I really don't know what they have to complain about.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17154 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 2:08 pm to
In 1993, Congress issued an apology to the people of Hawaii for the U.S. government’s role in the overthrow and acknowledged that “the native Hawaiian people never directly relinquished to the United States their claims to their inherent sovereignty.” And, since 2000, Senator Daniel K. Akaka of Hawaii, who is soon to retire, has repeatedly proposed to Congress the Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act, also known as the Akaka Bill, which would extend sovereignty to 400,000 native Hawaiians.

In 2005, The Times described the bill: “The measure would give [Native Hawaiians] equivalent legal standing to American Indians and native Alaskans and lead to the creation of a governing body that would make decisions on [their] behalf … The governing body would also have the power to negotiate with federal and state authorities over the disposition of vast amounts of land and resources taken by the United States when the islands were annexed in 1898.”

Supporters say the bill is necessary to protect native culture and redress Hawaiians for past injustices. Opponents say the bill is unworkable and would create a racially divided state.

What are your thoughts on legislation that gives native Hawaiians more control over the land, culture and resources of the islands? Given your understanding of history, would you support or oppose a bill that grants more autonomy to native Hawaiians? Why?
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
8640 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

Did the US conquer and oppress Hawaii?
it seems they didnt want to be annexed.

Prolly. The actual question is what to do about it now. I doubt straw huts and no modern medicine or air conditioning is a preferable alternative to 'Murica as we know it, which is to say: What are you gonna do, "return the land" and go back to no technology and not being tried by a jury of one's peers? Because that's America, and I'd rather be here than the socialist Europe my ancestors came from.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124322 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 4:13 pm to
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Did the US conquer and oppress Hawaii?
No.

Missionaries had a lot to do with early westernization. Relationship with the US was collaborative/cooperative.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9531 posts
Posted on 7/26/18 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

it seems they didnt want to be annexed.


Shouldn't have had open borders then

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