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re: Strongly considering getting a Big Green Egg grill. Any thoughts, advice and tips?

Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:05 am to
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79333 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:05 am to
have a kamado joe as well, smoking on the joe is where it's at IMO...or anything indirect.

however if you're looking for a quick cook, i'd look at other options. takes too long to get temp up to a desired range if you want to just sear a steak at high temp. i'm looking into getting a smaller portable tabletop gas grill to complement the joe, just so that i don't have to worry about babysitting it for high temps.

unless i'm doing something wrong here.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
53036 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:09 am to
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Sentrius


Word of advise, get the Kamado Joe Classic II. Same thing as an egg, but it is updated. Has oven gaskets instead of felt gaskets. Has better dampers than the BGE daisy wheel. Has the divide and conquer system, where you can adjust your grates to different heights. The ceramic fire box is segmented in the KJ, as opposed to 1 piece in a BGE. Some people have had complaints of the fire box cracking. Also, KJ has more accessories that come with it, whereas you have to buy a lot of the accessories for the BGE.

This video gives a good comparison of the 2.

LINK

Now in terms of cooking, nothing can beat a ceramic cooker. I've cooked everything from steaks and burgers, to smoked butt, brisket, beef plate ribs, baby backs. I've made Pizza on this thing, and may be one of the best things to make on here.
In short, a ceramic will make you a better cook. It is essentially, an outdoor oven. So anything you can do in an oven, you can do in a ceramic cooker. You can additionally smoke things or sear. If you keep your dampers wide open you can get the grill 700+. Hottest i got it was 750, it could have gotten hotter, but i was curious.
If you are used to using a weber kettle grill, like i was, then you'll have a little bit of a learning curve.
1) The "get the pit as hot as you can before adding meat" method that i used on the weber does not apply here. You will scorch your food. You'll need to learn your grill temps for cooking things. For steak, i get the grill to about 550, sear for 2 minutes, turn, 2 minutes, flip, 2 minutes, turn, 3 minutes, and it cooks a perfect steak.
2) If you are getting your grill really hot, watch for the back draft. Only happened to me once, but i had the heat rolling, and opened up the lid without burping first and a flame rolled out the opening. Luckily i didn't have the lid too high. So a word of advise, burp your kamado grill before opening.
3) When smoking, once you are at the temp you are at, leave it. I was used to always fidgeting with the smoker to maintain heat. You don't have to do that with this. Just set your dampers to barely open, and let it go. Damper positions will take a little to get used to. For smoking, you only need both the dampers barely open and it will maintain a steady 230-250 for 10-12 hours. No adding charcoal or anything.
4) DO NOT USE A WATER PAN. You don't need it. I know it's counter intuitive for smoking, but you really don't need it with a ceramic. It maintains moisture so well that your food will not dry out, unless you keep opening the lid. I used a water pan 2 or 3 times when i first got my joe. I then tried it without. Much better smoke and bark without. Not a huge difference, but i did find the water pan made more of a mess. Moisture kept seeping out of the cracks and vents.
5) This really isn't kamado specific, but you don't need to soak your wood when smoking. I just started doing this. Now, when i add my charcoal, i add my wood at the same time, placing the pieces randomly throughout the charcoal.
6) Use good lump charcoal. I use the Kamado Joe brand because it has been the best, so far. Big chunks of charcoal, and much cleaner. I made the mistake of buying the cowboy brand at costco a few weeks back. Pieces are too small, and i found limestone in the bag. Just all around too dirty. You can get a good size bag for $24 at shopper's choice of the Kamado Joe brand. My BIL swears by the big green egg brand too. I've also used B&B and really liked it as well. Large chunks.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45842 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:10 am to
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takes too long to get temp up to a desired range if you want to just sear a steak at high temp.


I use the odor free starting cubes and a mapp torch to light mine
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
79333 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:17 am to
have you ever used the looftlighter? i got it last christmas, but have been using starting cubes exclusively.
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28633 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:23 am to
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1) The "get the pit as hot as you can before adding meat" method that i used on the weber does not apply here


There are times when you want to do this with a Weber Kettle but not all the time. There are other ways to cook on a kettle. Just saying.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72104 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:26 am to
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I have a couple of buddies that own them.....they love and swear by them


No one has bought a $1k+ ceramic grill has ever said a disparaging word about it
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45842 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:26 am to
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have you ever used the looftlighter?


I have seen them used, but decided it wasnt much, if any faster, than the starting cube and mapp torch technique, so I did not purchase
Posted by BIG Texan
Texas
Member since Jun 2012
1607 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:29 am to
Lighting a BGE is simple. Just get the Square lighters or sticks at the grocery store in a bout 20 min and it's at 600.

BGE are smoker/ grills, smoker with the plate installed grill with out.

I've had one for over ten years and spent $200 on gaskets, new grates

You need to learn the BGE way to cook on it. It takes less time to cook anything better.
I cook steaks on high 2 min, 2 min, then shut down for 3-4 min. Depending on thickness.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79469 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:57 am to
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have you ever used the looftlighter? i got it last christmas, but have been using starting cubes exclusively.



I use one

Heard a lot of stories about them failing after a few months, but mine has been solid for over a year now.

I don't know if it's better than a regular electric starter, but it's more interesting for sure.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56642 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:58 am to
one of those is on my back porch
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
13559 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:59 am to
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
91211 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:13 am to
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but have been using starting cubes exclusively.


If you are referring to weber wax cubes that is what I use. Very easy to light, fire in 5 minutes.
Posted by BigErn
Member since Mar 2007
3284 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:39 am to
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RIP Primo group buys...


can we bring these back?
Posted by NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
13559 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:44 am to
I am looking into it
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
53036 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:45 am to
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There are times when you want to do this with a Weber Kettle but not all the time. There are other ways to cook on a kettle. Just saying.



Clearly i wasn't talking about every cooking application possible on a weber.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45842 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:50 am to
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can we bring these back?


Not on my end
Posted by BigErn
Member since Mar 2007
3284 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 10:57 am to
Posted by Columbia
Land of the Yuppies
Member since Mar 2016
3136 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:01 pm to
Whatever you decide to buy, just make sure it has a lifetime warranty like BGE (pretty sure primo does). If you cook as much as I do, the ceramic will eventually crack. My firebox and bottom have both cracked after 6 years and BGE has replaced them no questions asked.

Don’t waste your money on brand name accessories. Gaskets and tools are dirt cheap on amazon. A Rutland gasket will last forever.

A looftlighter is fun and cool but $100 and will break after 16 months. I use a $10 heating coil from Walmart.

Don’t buy your egg at a trendy shop. You will pay $400 more. Collins appliance in Collins MS normally has great prices on eggs as well as Glenn Mechanical in Eldorado AR.

I have a large. Wish I had an xtra but that is a huge arse heavy grill
Posted by G Vice
Lafayette, LA
Member since Dec 2006
12934 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:18 pm to
I have the large BGE and really like it. The new Kamado Joe's are really nice though. They are essentially the same. You won't be disappointed.

Roger that on the looftlighter: it looks like a curling iron on steroids, does a good job of lighting your lump charcoal, but will crap out after a year.

Go to Home Depot and buy a MAPP torch and be done with it. Those blue butane canisters are about $3 each and last a long time. With the torch, you can have your fire going in less than 5 minutes.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20628 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 12:20 pm to
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I have a large and the lack of space for smoking meat is annoying at times


While true, I can easily cook 3 racks of ribs or 2 8-10 lb boston butts on my large egg. That's plenty of food. If you need something more than that often than honestly none of the ceramics are good for you. I cook probably 15 butts a year and the large does great.

The XL takes a LOT more coals especially for long cooks than a large. Not a huge deal, but its very noticeable.

OP, you really need to figure out what you need most and buy that grill. No ceramic grill is perfect. It should last you 10 years if not 20 or more. I wouldn't go cheap, $400 over even 5 years for a better grill you will enjoy using is money well spent.
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