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re: It's truly a shame that it's a forgone conclusion all the Democrats vote no

Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:16 am to
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54259 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:16 am to
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It’s a shame but the Senate has become so partisan it will pretty much be a party line vote.




Which is why I said previously that a 50-49 vote is the same as a non confirmation. If we don't get at least one Dem to flip, Kavanaugh is history.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45846 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:19 am to
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How many committee hearings took place on Garland?


Elections have consequences.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17104 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:25 am to
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The politics around the court is something I guess I will never understand...


That's the problem. There shouldn't be politics involved, but there is. This tells us one thing: The courts have far too much power. They should not be making law, but they clearly do. Thomas Jefferson detested the idea of judicial review, but Hamilton was for it and his side won the debate.

Some review is necessary, though. You can't have Congress passing blatantly unconstitutional laws. I guess the question is who should do the reviewing.

I think the problem is the courts have a habit of telling us what the law DOES say whether than what it DOESN'T. Their purpose should be to step in and say "you cannot do this" rather than "Oh, didn't you know, the constitution allows abortion."
Posted by clooneyisgod
Member since Feb 2006
7838 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:44 am to
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Elections have consequences.


Well this was 8 months before the election but word bro
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20363 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:46 am to
Well that wouldn't be much of a fight.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141491 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:48 am to
No one is taking fetus chopping up from you. Settle down. 2a being protected should be your biggest worry.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45846 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:48 am to
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Well this was 8 months before the election but word bro


After Obama was elected, the left went hard left and the American people pushed back. They voted for Republican senators and regained the majority, it isn't just about presidential elections.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17104 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:48 am to
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51 Rs in the Senate. 47 Ds and 2 indies. Let's say McCain doesn't vote. All other Rs vote yea. Let's say the 47 and 2 vote nay. From what I know, Pence can only vote in case of a tie vote. Therefore, 50-49 won't get a vote from Pence so I surmise the vote would fail since you need a 50 plus 1 in order for the nomination to pass.

Anyone correct me if I'm wrong. I might be.


That's right. The VP is the tie-breaker in the Senate and he doesn't vote unless there is a tie.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41867 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:57 am to
If Kav can't get confirmed it will be a blood bath for Dems in November. Dems up for reelection in red states will be attacked relentlessly on this issue.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57586 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 7:59 am to
So he's saying the Democrats will vote lock-step not to confirm. What a clown.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37714 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:01 am to
One was in the final year of his final term months before a new president would be elected.

One is less than two years into his first term. How do you not see the difference?


If this was 2019 you may have a point, may. But at this point in time the democrats tactics are nothing but obstruction
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 8:05 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101965 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:02 am to
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How many committee hearings took place on Garland?



How many did the then president demand? Hell, how many times did he say anything about his vitally important pick at all?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58397 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:06 am to
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It's truly a shame that it's a forgone conclusion all the Democrats vote no



It's possible that one or two Dems facing reelection in the midterms in conservative states could be cajoled to vote for Trumps pick? Who knows.
This post was edited on 7/10/18 at 8:07 am
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17549 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:07 am to
You idiots bring up Garland like he was ever going to be confirmed...the Rs would have just voted his arse down.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58397 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:10 am to
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You idiots bring up Garland like he was ever going to be confirmed...the Rs would have just voted his arse down


I never brought up Garland??
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53820 posts
Posted on 7/10/18 at 8:16 am to
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the Rs would have just voted his arse down.




but why?

In my line of thinking, a judge should be impartial and know and follow the law and constitution.

The job of a sworn in Senator should be thinking the same thing.

But Dems are looking for judge who is willing to bend the law to fit their bias...

that's so wrong...

this is why it's become harder and harder to appreciate our friends who think differently...

we get it but it's flawed thinking...and it's always to push morality out of the way...sad!


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