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re: Released body camera footage shows cops stood outside Vegas gunman's door in fear
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:23 pm to NotGrammarKnotsi
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:23 pm to NotGrammarKnotsi
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Freezing up and backing off happened probably involuntarily..based on his believable account, he essentially zoned out
Which has happened to many soldiers in combat. Doesn't make them less of a person, but obviously they were not made for the job. Its just sad that so many people had to lose their lives for this officer to figure that out.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:23 pm to SpanishFortTiger
You fricking go in, frick the people that will come in here saying, "you've never been in that situation" The worst case scenario in that is I die a hero and will be remembered far more so than if I pass on a bed at the age of 80 years old shitting myself.
You fricking go in
You fricking go in
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:24 pm to TennesseeFan25
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You fricking go in
I fully believe that he physically could not make himself go in..There are two types of people out there
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:25 pm to toosleaux
Protect and serve my arse.
To hide and cower.
To hide and cower.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:27 pm to NotGrammarKnotsi
What would Blane Salamoni have done?
Fine line between hero and heel.
Fine line between hero and heel.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:27 pm to Ash Williams
He was probabaly scared he would get fired for police brutality if the guy was a minority.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:27 pm to baldona
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ure he was probably worried the door was boobie trapped, and he was absolutely right to be worried about that. But that's his job
So what you're saying is not matter the situation, if he has to give his life, he should do so because that's his job?
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:29 pm to toosleaux
So one was an actual police officer while another one was a trainee and the others were security guards. It's not like it was the SWAT team just hanging out. The veteran LEO should have taken more initiative but it's hard to blame security guards for not going rambo in there.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:29 pm to toosleaux
Weren't they told to wait for backup?
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:31 pm to ReauxlTide222
I think that was radio traffic telling men responding and on the scene below to take cover. Not Floor 31
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:33 pm to ReauxlTide222
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they were told to respond to the 31st floor.
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since he was the senior officer, the trainee that was with him didn’t act nor did the security people because they were waiting for his lead."
no clear direction given in the story..they did eventually wait on SWAT, but it doesn't say if they were directed to wait
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:36 pm to Rebel
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What would Blane Salamoni have done?
Fine line between hero and heel.
Ha, that dude would have tackled the shooter out the window. I agree, and you can't have a perfect person every time. But he's exactly the type of person that was needed in this situation.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:37 pm to NotGrammarKnotsi
Were these those first officers to respond?
I remember someone telling them NOT to engage that night. At least I think that's what I remember.
I remember someone telling them NOT to engage that night. At least I think that's what I remember.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:39 pm to Rebel
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What would Blane Salamoni have done?
Lots of cursing, for starters.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:39 pm to baldona
Blaine was like some of the Dallas officers. Pretty determined to take out a bad guy.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:40 pm to toosleaux
Other people who are expected to knowingly risk their lives for the greater good can judge these guys.
I respectfully decline to.
I respectfully decline to.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:41 pm to toosleaux
I could maybe understand 1-3 minutes, but, holy shite, 15 minutes? That seems way too long to me. Then again, I have no idea what I would do standing outside a door hearing automatic fire. Those in glass houses...
Still seems like there should be some kind of punishment for this. They’re paid to do a dangerous job and they failed.
Still seems like there should be some kind of punishment for this. They’re paid to do a dangerous job and they failed.
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:41 pm to Rebel
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What would Blane Salamoni have done?
While I think you are over selling this guy, someone who would have handled the situation and then later worried about being fired versus someone who was worried about retirement, is hard to find these days
Posted on 7/3/18 at 1:42 pm to slackster
I'm sure everyone calling these guys cowards would have just busted in there with their little semi automatic pistol with no fear at all hearing a fully automatic AR15 going off in that room.
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