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Posted on 5/2/18 at 6:40 pm to deltaland
Because they surrendered their right to their own life when they committed a crime.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 6:42 pm to hrryhll
quote:That is absolutely retarded bullshite.
If you left a murderer to die you are no better than they are.
Not all lives hold the same worth and to think otherwise is either naive or an act of willful stupidity.
The life of a murderer is not worth the same as the life of a child or even someone who has never murdered someone.
This post was edited on 5/2/18 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 5/2/18 at 6:44 pm to BowlJackson
quote:Why not?
Why let them take the easy way out?
This idea of mass suffering of prison inmates is an even more fake TV created trope than the idea of “prison justice”.
This isn’t Russia, Mexico, or South America.
Geez.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 6:47 pm to deltaland
Think about it this way. Other than the aforementioned liability reasons, inmates have to be put on suicide watch or the prison guards could just get away with killing folks incarcerated. Now we know most prisoners here are scum, but they at least deserve to live out their sentences.
Further, most people put on suicide watch have just been charged with a crime, and not yet been convicted. You know the ol' innocent until proven guilty thing we have here?
So, technically most people that are on suicide watch are "innocent", at the time of the watch.
Further, most people put on suicide watch have just been charged with a crime, and not yet been convicted. You know the ol' innocent until proven guilty thing we have here?
So, technically most people that are on suicide watch are "innocent", at the time of the watch.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 6:49 pm to StupidBinder
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Think about the fact that occasionally innocent people spend years in prison and are later exonerated
Like everybody that goes to jail has a long rap sheet so they were guilty of something
Posted on 5/2/18 at 6:50 pm to StupidBinder
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Think about the fact that occasionally innocent people spend years in prison and are later exonerated.
I am certainly a proponent of the death penalty, but what you are talking about is actually a lot more common than I ever thought it was. And that is just the cases that we actually know about...
Posted on 5/2/18 at 6:52 pm to el Gaucho
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Why do we put inmates in the first place? Just let the cops do them justice
What could go wrong?
Posted on 5/2/18 at 6:57 pm to Scruffy
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This idea of mass suffering of prison inmates is an even more fake TV created trope than the idea of “prison justice”.
This isn’t Russia, Mexico, or South America.
Have you been to prison?
Posted on 5/2/18 at 7:00 pm to BowlJackson
I’ve been in a Turkish prison and seen a grown man naked.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 7:03 pm to Scruffy
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Not all lives hold the same worth and to think otherwise is either naive or an act of willful stupidity.
This was written by a pediatrician. He's from New Iberia so there's that.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 7:09 pm to rantfan
quote:All children are innocent.
This was written by a pediatrician.
To think that the life of a mass murderer is equal to the life of a child or someone who isn’t a mass murderer is insane.
And then to take it even further and to say that allowing a murderer to kill themselves makes you as bad as the murderer...geez.
This post was edited on 5/2/18 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 5/2/18 at 7:10 pm to TigerstuckinMS
quote:Not in the UK. They'll kill you in the name of dignity.
Plus, there's the idea that the state has a moral and ethical obligation to reasonably protect people in its custody from harm, even if that harm might be self-inflicted.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 7:10 pm to Scruffy
I like scruffy.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 7:12 pm to Scruffy
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To think that the life of a mass murderer is equal to the life of a child or someone who isn’t a mass murderer is insane.
But what if the child is Adolf Hitler and you're a time traveler from the future? What then smart guy?
Posted on 5/2/18 at 7:14 pm to Mahootney
quote:Well, it’s just nuts that people hold some romanticized view of reality.
I like scruffy.
Does the life a parent who beats their child have the same value as a parent who doesn’t?
Nothing in life is black or white.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 7:15 pm to BowlJackson
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But what if the child is Adolf Hitler and you're a time traveler from the future? What then smart guy?
If that situation comes up, Scruffy will eat his own words...and his shoe.
Posted on 5/2/18 at 7:57 pm to deltaland
I watched a guy try to kill himself while getting booked in about a decade ago. Tried to ram a ballpoint pen through his neck. I missed the first moments, but when a i heard a slamming noise on the booking in table and the female cop screaming i thought this guy was attacking the cop. Nope just slamming his own throat on the pen he was holding against the desk. Absolutely insane. Dude was only facing a misdemeanor domestic battery.
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