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I have never in my life seen the media reach such a level of advocacy before.

Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:56 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69354 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 12:56 am
I do not know why this shooting and not the many that came before it finally sent them over the edge into full blown advocacy rather than simple reporting, but it really is extraordinary.

Think of how much money in free advertising the past few days has given the democratic party.

It really makes you marvel at how the republican party has so much power, when the gatekeepers of information (media, reporters, journalists, celebrities) are literal advocates of what the GOP is against.

I remember many "moral panics" of the past- the great crime wave of the 80s/90s, video game violence, sexual offenders (mccmartin pre school)......never have I seen what is traditionally an institution that reports news, the media, transform into an earth-sized megaphone as much as this event.

You have NBC running articles giving people instructions on how to turn in their rifles.

You have ABC running articles on who to call to get anti-nra billboards running in your area

it's astounding.
Posted by TOPAL
Member since Mar 2010
4533 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 1:02 am to
The media may know that shite is about to hit the fan. All their connections and lies will be shown. They need to have huge win and fast.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39569 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 1:16 am to
The level of scandal at the highest ranks of government right now would fuel a thousand Pulitzer Prizes had the perpetrators been republicans. Instead of being seekers of truth, they shill as the American ideal slowly dies.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34819 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 1:20 am to
We are at war with the media. They must be destroyed if this country is to continue on its path we were intended to
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42761 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 3:23 am to
There really needs to be some sort of FCC regulation that prevents the kind of 'journalism' abuses we have suffered in the past 2 years.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 4:14 am to
Cruz probably wasn't arrested any of the 39 times the sheriff's department was called because they had a program in place to "equalize" arrests between minority and white kids and if course Cruz sounds Hispanic.

I am sure the media will be all over that, right?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29989 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 4:31 am to
And dems stroke their confirmation bias while lapping it up, never pausing to question why a supposedly objective media is telling me exactly what to think. They are unwitting members of a cult.

I still don’t understand what is behind it all. And is it designed to be this way or did it evolve. And if it’s just “money” where are the republican water carriers and line toe-ers in the media because no one purely interested in collecting a check would just cut off half their potential customer base so three or four news outlets could fight over the other half. And don’t tell me Fox because they are nowhere near the level of partisanship the others are, not even close.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32750 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 4:43 am to
I noticed it as well. Andrew Ross Sorkin was on CNBC the other day floating the idea that the banks should stop doing business with firearms dealers in order to take the lead on gun control. It wasn't even mentioned in a broader debate on gun control where other people were debating the topic with him. They started with the premise that gun control was desperately needed and Congress was standing in the way. The debate was really only on how they were going to accomplish the gun grab. It blew me away. Like you said, it was just unabashed advocacy by a host of one of their biggest news programs.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32348 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 4:57 am to
They are running out of things that ring true to the general population attempting to vilify the non-liberals. Playing on the emotions because it was kids involved in this tragedy is a tragedy itself. We almost always over react in after action responses due to emotions. Emotions interfere with common sense and good judgement. We have become so overly sensitive to the feelings of crazies that we stop short of keeping our public safe rather than facing the real problems with mental health and dealing with it. This guy showed all kinds of symptoms and predictable actions as he pretty much raised his hand on multiple occasions and told anyone that would listen; "I am going to kill someone". And that's all I am going to say about that.
Posted by Ole War Skule
North Shore
Member since Sep 2003
3409 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 5:12 am to
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It really makes you marvel at how the republican party has so much power, when the gatekeepers of information (media, reporters, journalists, celebrities) are literal advocates of what the GOP is against.



This amazes me. The liberal/democrat philosophy is preached 24/7 (other than Fox) on a national level by news, entertainment, and advertising, yet Republicans are still hanging in there. I don't see it continuing, but am amazed the conservative philosophy has lasted this long.

Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 5:43 am to
Joseph Goebbels would be proud and jealous of the American propaganda machine in effect today. It's his wet dream.
Posted by TakingStock
Member since Jun 2009
6092 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 5:53 am to
They received their marching orders from Soros and the DNC, plain and simple. They know not to let a good crisis go to waste, so they seek this as a great opportunity to hit TRUMP and the Republicans ahead of the 2018 mid-terms.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10539 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 5:56 am to
Is it possible that you’re on the wrong side of history on this issue?
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19385 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 6:04 am to
I read an article the other day that said Cruz purchased his AR-15 "approximately one year ago" while at the same time lamenting that Trump rescinded Obama's executive order on gun purchases and mental illness in February 2017. Of course they mentioned the exact date that Trump issued his Executive Order although I can't remember the date off the top of my head and I'm too lazy to look it up right now.

I'm very curious as to the exact date that Cruz purchased his AR-15, was it before or after Trump rescinded that mental health EO. Based on the way that the article was written I feel fairly confident that it was during the Obama era regulation.
This post was edited on 2/21/18 at 6:05 am
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46315 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 6:04 am to
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HailHailtoMichigan! I have never in my life seen the media reach such a level of advocacy before.



I have, remember the 2016 GE? The Enemedia was an absolute advocate for HRC. Are we seeing a pattern of behavior? I think we are!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124175 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 6:33 am to
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I have never in my life seen the media reach such a level of advocacy before.

It's been there since Watergate.

Very little is different in terms of actual underlying attitude over the past 40yrs. E.g., beneath a superficial facade, identical anti-conservative venom, vitriol, and hate was certainly awash during the "W" years. We simply never had a POTUS capable of forcing it so visibly to the surface.

Until now the Media has been a bit like David Duke.
You knew there was underlying bigotry, vile vicious prejudice. But on the surface the ugliness was slathered over with attractive calm personalities presenting leftist talking points in tones of reserved expression, reasonable sounding posits and even pseudoeloquence.

Suddenly now though their message is not breaking through. Everytime they pose what in the past would resonate as an effective attack, they are thwarted. Worse yet they are beaten at their own game. There is frustration; even panic.

What you are seeing is a loss of composure. They badly underestimated an opponent. Now they sense the game is getting away. On the nightly news, wild-eyed, red-faced anchors issue spittle producing diatribes, and as their composure wanes, the public is given full glimpses of reality -- an unrepentant MSM revulsion to anything outside of leftist extremes.

Eventually, we should hope such exposure will lead to conclusions, both on the right and left, that our media shirked its journalistic responsibilities. That it gave up honesty in favor of socialist propaganda and progressive advocacy. Perhaps Nate Silver's recent irrefutable Presidential Historian critique stands as an early example.

So far, other than exposure, nothing attitudinally has changed though.
This post was edited on 2/21/18 at 6:37 am
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16271 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 6:49 am to
The msm is our enemy. They have helped incite violence on a lot of trump supporters. They have helped dehumanize Trump supporters.

We have watched as our free press actually went hostile against a large portion of the population.

I can't stress this enough. frick them. The only ones that still hang on every word of the msm are rinos and liberals.
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 7:08 am to
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it's astounding.


I love it. Have you ever considered that it's your party that's wrong about this? What other civilized country on this planet lets its citizens have the type guns that Americans have?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147277 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:01 am to
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You have NBC running articles giving people instructions on how to turn in their rifles.

You have ABC running articles on who to call to get anti-nra billboards running in your area

it's astounding.
We are watching a desperate attempt @ revitalizing progressive marxism and gun control. All under the guise of the democrats and some GOPe.

President Trump is looking into background checks and mental health; they won't report this they are desperate marxism demons.

Many were called loons for over 20 years now... for saying they wanted to ban all guns and knives and have everyone turn them in like the UK did. Well...who are the loons now?
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33956 posts
Posted on 2/21/18 at 8:08 am to
What’s more amazing is they give 0 voice to second amendment supporters. Literally 0 so far this morning on CBS.

They aren’t even trying anymore
This post was edited on 2/21/18 at 8:09 am
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