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re: You guys realize the word "shithole" isn't what people are upset about, right?
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:46 pm to L.A.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:46 pm to L.A.
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I don't think that's the clear insinuation at all. I think the insinuation is that people from underdeveloped countries probably don't have marketable skills that will benefit America. The result is that these people are more likely to become a drag on American resources. So Trump is looking out for America more than he is looking out for immigrants from other countries. Is that so wrong?
Oh really?
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Perhaps most surprising is that, by many measures, the most-educated immigrant group in the U.S. isn't East Asians. It’s Africans.
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According to Census data, more than 43 percent of African immigrants hold a bachelor’s degree or higher -- slightly more than immigrants from East Asia. Nigerian immigrants are especially educated, with almost two-thirds holding college degrees -- a significantly higher percentage even than Chinese or South Korean immigrants. African immigrants are also very likely to hold advanced degrees, many of which are earned at U.S. universities. By many measures, African immigrants are as far ahead of American whites in the educational achievement as whites are ahead of African-Americans.
Huh, weird
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Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:46 pm to shinerfan
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So what makes those countries shitholes? Is it the air? The water? The predatory behavior of faux charities such as the Clinton Foundation? Or could it be that they are full of shitty people?
It probably has a lot to do with the fact that the rest of the world has pillaged these "shitholes" for the last few centuries.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:47 pm to fontell
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We can take 5 star talent because we have 5 star coaching,facilities,etc.
It is like you are saying that the U.S. is the Alabama of nations.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:47 pm to Korkstand
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you are still left with what is clearly class-based discrimination
And?
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:48 pm to SoulGlo
quote:quote:You made that shite up.
people who live in shithole countries are less worthy of becoming Americans
How do you interpret it?
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:48 pm to Korkstand
They are less worthy. Why do you think shotguns Les are shitholes?
What is this quota affirmative action shite?
More want to come than we have capacity- pick the best ones
Supply-demand Econ 101
What is this quota affirmative action shite?
More want to come than we have capacity- pick the best ones
Supply-demand Econ 101
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:49 pm to WheelRoute
43% of immigrants to the U.S. have a bachelor's degree or higher
Are you talking about legal immigration or illegal immigration? Are you intentionally conflating the two? Because if you are, that would be dishonest.
Are you talking about legal immigration or illegal immigration? Are you intentionally conflating the two? Because if you are, that would be dishonest.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:49 pm to gthog61
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pick the best ones
Ok.
What does coming from a shite hole country have anything to do with this though?
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:49 pm to Yak
Great post. I can't comprehend why so many posters here are lumping in African immigrants with the usual illegal Mexican immigrant conversation.
It's completely, completely different.
I'm usually 100% with this group when we're collectively bashing SJW idiots, but so many posters are wrong on this.
It's completely, completely different.
I'm usually 100% with this group when we're collectively bashing SJW idiots, but so many posters are wrong on this.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:50 pm to Rawdawgs
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43% of immigrants to the U.S. have a bachelor's degree or higher
Are you talking about legal immigration or illegal immigration? Are you intentionally conflating the two? Because if you are, that would be dishonest.
Nobody is discussing illegal immigration here.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:50 pm to BBONDS25
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Why would you assume he was thinking of race instead of education and skill sets? It's because you are racist as frick and project your racism. Classic dem tactic. Accuse others of doing what you have already done.
You're doing a lot of projecting there while accusing me of it.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:51 pm to truthbetold
Really! So they come over with plenty of money and a homestead in place. Man, what the hell!
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:51 pm to Korkstand
quote:I've had two Nigerian student workers work for me. They have been the hardest workers I have ever had. I could depend on them to do anything I asked, without complaint, and they got it right.
What makes you so sure that potential immigrants from shitholes would be leeches? They have probably worked harder all their lives for what they have than any of us have.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:51 pm to shinerfan
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We don't need large numbers of immigrants, period.
You couldn't be more wrong. Immigration is one of our core economic advantages. We need immigrants to make up for a declining birth rate and a rising median age.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:52 pm to Korkstand
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The upsetting thing is that Trump very clearly insinuated that people who live in shithole countries are less worthy of becoming Americans than people from other places.
If you don't view immigration solely through the lense of charity, this statement is 100% accurate.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:52 pm to Korkstand
quote:Well their country didn't become a shithole for no reason. It's the same reason I don't like the idea of accepting all refugees from countries in the middle of a civil war.
The upsetting thing is that Trump very clearly insinuated that people who live in shithole countries are less worthy of becoming Americans than people from other places.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:52 pm to WheelRoute
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43% of immigrants to the U.S. have a bachelor's degree or higher
What about the other 57%.?
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:52 pm to Korkstand
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It probably has a lot to do with the fact that the rest of the world has pillaged these "shitholes" for the last few centuries.
How do 18th century sugar cane plantations affect today's Haitian?
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:52 pm to WheelRoute
quote:Completely depends on the type of industry. Many nations in europe have much lower rates of immigration and their economies are just fine.
You couldn't be more wrong. Immigration is one of our core economic advantages.
Posted on 1/12/18 at 12:52 pm to Korkstand
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you are still left with what is clearly class-based discrimination, and IMO that isn't the way the land of opportunity should present itself to the world.
There is nothing wrong with that.
When the NFL draft comes around in a few months lets see how many division III walk-ons they draft.
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