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re: Why Won't Trump Release the FISA Warrant Application?

Posted on 12/19/17 at 8:48 am to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
75109 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 8:48 am to
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Well your post history is pretty Trumpish. Of course you never actually say anything of substance so who knows.



You are pathetic

Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 2:20 pm to
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Do you think he's calling for Trump to obstruct justice?


yes, they all are, they are desperate because they have absolutely nothing on trump or anyone else and its their only hope left at this point is trying to entrap him into doing something wrong. trump isnt dumb no matter haw much the left wants to claim he is
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14290 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:25 pm to
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you think if they had a smoking gun on trump it wouldnt have been used yet?

The FISA warrant does not provide a smoking gun against Trump one way of the other.

What it does provide (as long as it is not declassified and made known to the public) is an opportunity for the Trump administration to allege that the FBI is crooked and colluded with Trump opponents to improperly obtain the FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign.

If that is true, why hasn't Trump declassify the FISA warrant application and prove it so he can get rid of Mueller, which he is obviously dying to do.

The most obvious answer is that, if the warrant was properly obtained, and Trump declassified it, the warrant would lose its value as a talking point for Trump to rile up distrust against the FBI and the Muller investigation.
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
14865 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 4:27 pm to
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most obvious answer 


lulz
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14290 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 7:10 pm to
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most obvious answer 
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lulz

Then you tell me why Trump hasn't released it. It would clear everything up.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14290 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 7:15 pm to
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Trump can't release it because it would prove he was wrong.
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In your Dreams, MELT

Then why won't he release the warrant? You tell me.

(Do you ever post anything of do you just go around posting melt all the time?)

Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 7:28 pm to
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Could the reason Trump won't release the FISA warrant information be that there was nothing improper about the warrant or how it was issued, and Trump wants to continue to use the warrant accusations to discredit the FBI and DOJ as part of his escalating campaign to justifying the firing of Mueller or Rosenstein.

There's no other logical reason Trump won't release it.


Other than that it would be a bad practice to start?

Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53967 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 7:33 pm to
They probably haven’t manufactured it yet, that is probably what the Mueller team is doing. The government has to get all their lies and evidence together before they release things.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 2:46 pm to
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Could the reason Trump won't release the FISA warrant information be that there was nothing improper about the warrant or how it was issued, and Trump wants to continue to use the warrant accusations to discredit the FBI and DOJ as part of his escalating campaign to justifying the firing of Mueller or Rosenstein.

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The only reason that makes sense is that there was nothing improper about the FISA warrant.

WOW
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 2:48 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141573 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 2:56 pm to
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We'll have something really, really great for you coming really soon


Yep. Horowitz laid it all out there for you progs to see.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64690 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 2:57 pm to
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Why would he be blasted for providing that information?


Oh yeah your right DJT HAS been treated very fairly these last three years!
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6907 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 2:58 pm to
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There's no other logical reason Trump won't release it.




Probably should have looked at the thread start date. These bumped threads are killing me.
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 3:01 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
61862 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 2:58 pm to
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Decatur


Clearly we're onto Decatur's alter scheme, so he had to log back in on this account...
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30546 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 2:59 pm to
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Presidents have absolute authority to declassify anything

I'm not so sure about that. This is a court matter, in which case the President does not have any legal authority to unveil matters/proceedings/evidence in the purview of the court, if the court deems it sealed from public disclosure. No, I can't say for certain that FISA court records are sealed from public record, but I'm siding with yes, they are sealed.

For example, juvenile court records are sealed from public view, not subject to public records laws. And not even the President of the United States can unilaterally lift that veil of privacy.

So my opinion, Trump does not the the power to "declassify" FISA court info.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
22059 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 2:59 pm to
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But, even though Trump, as president, can release the warrant application and prove that the FBI and/or OJ acted improperly to have the FISA warrant issued, he has chosen not to.
The left still will spin it to attempt to make Trump look wrong. He released the entire transcript of the call with the Ukrainian president almost immediately after Democrats started accusing him of quid pro quo and bribery. That hasn't stopped them from pushing forward with the impeachment nonsense.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
52037 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:01 pm to
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Yep. Horowitz laid it all out there for you progs to see.


Which is why they aren't here. They were wrong and aren't adult enough to come here and give their mea cupla.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18998 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:01 pm to
Is this a last gasp? This sounds like last gasp.
Posted by mattloc
Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4321 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 3:57 pm to
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There's no other logical reason Trump won't release it.


I'm sure the fact that there is a special prosecutor investigating these warrants, and who has actually already declared the illegality of the process utilized to obtain said warrants , has nothing to do with it
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17403 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:06 pm to
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Which is why they aren't here. They were wrong and aren't adult enough to come here and give their mea cupla.
Yep.
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Why Won't Trump Release the FISA Warrant Application? Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:55 pm
Damn. We've been putting up with these weak arguments for TWO GODDAMN YEARS.
Posted by Bogie00
Tiger in Kansas
Member since Apr 2012
5704 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 4:08 pm to
Crow eating Time,
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