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NEVER talk to the Feds..EVER....

Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:32 pm
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23764 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:32 pm
I can't see a single crime that was committed, so they try and create one by questioning you for hours and then come back later and claim lying to the FBI if there is the slightest thing different.

Just say FIF....and walk away. The smart thing to do dealing with ANY level of law enforcement. They are NOT your friend and definitely are not acting to find the truth, they want to charge you and convict you at all costs.
This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 2:38 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67217 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:34 pm to
Yet the feds can lie under oath to Congress repeatedly and never face ANY consequences. For thee, but not for me.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19312 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:37 pm to
Or say you won't answer any questions without an attorney present.

And preface EVERY answer with "as far as I can recall" or "to the best of my recollection". If you DO recall something different than what you previously said, then (again, with your attorney present) preface the reply "upon thinking further on this issue, and again to the best of my recollection".

It's hard to make a charge of perjury stick if you state up front that you're not being totally definitive but only to the best of your recall.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5854 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:38 pm to
What?
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

I can't see a single crime that was committed, so they try and create one by questioning you for hours and then come back later and claim lying to the FBI if there is the slightest thing different.

Just say FIF....and walk away. The smart thing to do dealing with ANY level of law enforcement. They are NOT your friend and definitely are not acting to find the truth, they want to charge you and convict you at all costs.


Yeah you try that with the Fbi.

how bout be truthful when asked...did you talk about sanctions on Russia.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53143 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:39 pm to
I tell this to my family all the time
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:40 pm to
Fif?
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82341 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:40 pm to
Serious question - could Flynn have just pled the 5th or said "I don't recall" over and over and over again when he was questioned?

For as sharp as Trump is and as often as he used the legal system to his advantage, his team seems stupid as frick on pertinent legal matters thus far in his administration.
This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19127 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:40 pm to
Its a process crime. This is why you should never ever under any circumstances talk to law enforcement or the Feds without an attorney present. My brother nearly went to jail about 15 years ago because he spoke with the police. He tried to be as helpfull as he could, and then they turned around and arrested him. Cost him about 3 years of his life dealing with the court system. It also wrecked his dreams of joing the military. Law enforcement is not there to be your friend. Way too many people get fricked by the system because they think they are doing the right thing when it comes to giving statements.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147468 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:41 pm to
The current FBI: da fif even if you are innocent.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30141 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:42 pm to
hillary did this when she testified saying "i do not recall" about 150 times even when asked what her own damn name and signature was on her own letter head
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68273 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:51 pm to
It's a classic that hasn't been posted here for a long time but it still holds as true as ever.

A law professor explains why you

don't talk to the police
This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 3:17 pm
Posted by Diary Queen
Member since Jul 2017
1392 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 2:52 pm to
I think these US Senators and Congressmen should be interviewed by the FBI about this sexual harrassment...these women's civil rights may have been violated. Lets see how they answer and if they lie, well off to prison. Swamp drained.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7771 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 3:04 pm to
Poor Trumpkins is so persecute.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 3:07 pm to
It's good advice in general. Family member who is a cop has said he'd never talk to police without an attorney present
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10574 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 3:11 pm to
Yep, never ever talk without an attorney present, and never answer a question until your attorney gives you the go ahead. We live in a world where it seems people assume you're guilty if you're accused, why would cops be any different? They're only human.

Of course you'll have the crowd that says "if you're not guilty you don't have anything to worry about". That is the biggest crock of shite reasoning you could trot out.

ETA: I'll give an example for anyone that's ever gotten in a heated argument with a gf/spouse...

- argument
- you leave the house to get away from her
- angry texts sent back and forth
- you get a 6 pack and go somewhere to clear your mind
- something happens to your gf/spouse

I guess you could see where questioning could lead to some bad circumstances for you without an attorney.

This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 3:16 pm
Posted by BabyCakes
Northshore
Member since Nov 2016
110 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

The smart thing to do dealing with ANY level of law enforcement. They are NOT your friend and definitely are not acting to find the truth, they want to charge you and convict you at all costs.


I 100% agree with this and routinely give this advice to clients.

It is not uncommon for them to pitch it as a friendly meeting, maybe even to show up at your house on a weekend or weeknight to discuss. Your response should always be that you will set up a meeting after you have spoken with your lawyer.

Remember, once they make contact, they typically have already investigated you for weeks or months. They will ask questions they already know the answer to in order to see if you will lie.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

Just say FIF....and walk away. The smart thing to do dealing with ANY level of law enforcement. They are NOT your friend and definitely are not acting to find the truth, they want to charge you and convict you at all costs.



Correct.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 3:30 pm to
You should always have witness with you as they will not let your record the conversion but will take detailed copious notes the whole time. If you say one damn thing that is different from their notes they will go after you for perjury
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11651 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 4:09 pm to

You really think "lying to the FBI" was all they had him on? Christ, y'all are naive.

This was a plea deal for cooperation with an ongoing investigation. That's why there was a guilty plea to such a low charge.
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