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Help me tame my inlaws 2acre back yard (dead grass/hay issues)
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:32 pm
Trying to tame my inlaws 2acre back yard. One acre is mostly trash grass that doesn't grow too thick. The other is field grass that is thick and has tons of dead grass/hay from being cut over and over. At this point "cutting" it pretty much means moving the hay 4' over with each pass. Is there some sort of equipment that I could use to take it all up? Is that type of grass worth bailing? Can you rent this equipment?
Pics for reference:
Overall picture. Cut grass on the right is the trash acre, the thick grass is starting to take over, which is good but it needs to be cleaned up and kept in check. On the left is the thick acre.
This is an example of what it looks like after the thick part is "cut". Pretty much just a layer of dead grass.
Large clumps in areas I didn't attempt to cut.
Pics for reference:
Overall picture. Cut grass on the right is the trash acre, the thick grass is starting to take over, which is good but it needs to be cleaned up and kept in check. On the left is the thick acre.
This is an example of what it looks like after the thick part is "cut". Pretty much just a layer of dead grass.
Large clumps in areas I didn't attempt to cut.
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Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:37 pm to Coon
Burn it then throw out some good grass seed
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:59 pm to diat150
yep burn it all, plow it in and turn it over until you have a good base and then plant some good grass seed 
another option is rent or hire a hay bailer then stack that shite up in a burn pile, then you can cut it regularly to keep it under control, or after you clear the grass mat do as described above
another option is rent or hire a hay bailer then stack that shite up in a burn pile, then you can cut it regularly to keep it under control, or after you clear the grass mat do as described above
This post was edited on 11/5/17 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 11/5/17 at 6:02 pm to diat150
+1 on burning. it will actually help the soil fertility.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 8:24 pm to mack the knife
If burning isn’t an option, I’d spray roundup. Kill it all off, disc it and plant good seed. I know the grass/hay is a pain but you can just keep after it and you’ll eventually get ahead of it.
If nothing else, I’d spray Grazon or something similar in the spring to kill off the shite grass and promote rye grass growth.
If nothing else, I’d spray Grazon or something similar in the spring to kill off the shite grass and promote rye grass growth.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:12 am to tigerinthebueche
Burning it as is isn't really an option. What about something like this? I can use it to pile up the grass and burn. (Added bonus: I could also use this to pick up leaves from all my oak trees)
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Posted on 11/6/17 at 9:20 am to Coon
quote:
inlaws 2acre back yard.
all I can say is their daughter must be pretty hot for you to take on this task.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:02 am to Chuker
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:15 am to Chuker
Like you wouldn't believe; I've outkicked my coverage like a bama punter.... And she's given me three male offspring. #winning
Posted on 11/6/17 at 10:53 am to Coon
What is their long term plan for the area? I mean what do you mean by tame? Seems like a large lot next to a subdivision?
I mean if they want a huge nice area you are going to have to cut it at least weekly no matter what. Do they have a mower capable of doing that regularly?
As said, you need to kill everything and replant with the proper grass if you want to do it right. The other option is get some animals like goats or cows and fence it.
Its not large enough to make hay financially worth it for anyone and that is only going to be a handful of cuttings a year so its going to be long most of the year. You may be able to find someone that will cut it for hay occasionally for free though? It won't be anything reliable though.
I mean if they want a huge nice area you are going to have to cut it at least weekly no matter what. Do they have a mower capable of doing that regularly?
As said, you need to kill everything and replant with the proper grass if you want to do it right. The other option is get some animals like goats or cows and fence it.
Its not large enough to make hay financially worth it for anyone and that is only going to be a handful of cuttings a year so its going to be long most of the year. You may be able to find someone that will cut it for hay occasionally for free though? It won't be anything reliable though.
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 10:55 am
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:10 pm to Coon
That lawn sweeper isn't worth a damn at picking up dead grass...trust me. You would be better off raking it.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:44 pm to Coon
Coon, this may be an option
if you have a tractor to pull it. It aint gonna work like a garden rake but it will pull grass if you use it correctly. Also good for raking up limbs and shite after storms.
if you have a tractor to pull it. It aint gonna work like a garden rake but it will pull grass if you use it correctly. Also good for raking up limbs and shite after storms.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 1:02 pm to tigerinthebueche
Kill it, till it, plant new grass.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 3:12 pm to SportTiger1
quote:
That lawn sweeper isn't worth a damn at picking up dead grass...trust me. You would be better off raking it.
I was thinking about getting one, how good is it for everything else?
Posted on 11/6/17 at 3:35 pm to Itismemc
I'd like to hear how that sweeper would work with leaves as well. And also why it wouldn't work with dead grass. Would it work with dry dead grass recently fluffed up and cut and like in the second photo?
Posted on 11/6/17 at 3:52 pm to Coon
quote:
Burning it as is isn't really an option.
I'm wondering if just tilling it under might help without burning it - just getting the soil turned over.
I wouldn't necessarily do it all at once, but do a 20x30 or 30x50 foot pass - till it/plow it under, get it all turned over and try good grass seed on that. Might be able to borrow equipment to do that little at a time.
Keep fighting the good fight on the rest, and every other weekend, try to add to the "new" patch.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 3:56 pm to Ace Midnight
Let me also say that anything more than using a lawnmower or very small tractor is out of the question. Plowing/ tilling, etc ain't happening.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 3:58 pm to baldona
They do have a mower that can handle it and it will be on me to keep it cut. I just need to get it started. If it's down, it can be cut in an hour or two. Just need to get it started.
They also have an issue with a few areas holding water that I'm trying to figure out as well, hopefully with some subsurface drainage.
They also have an issue with a few areas holding water that I'm trying to figure out as well, hopefully with some subsurface drainage.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 4:01 pm to mack the knife
quote:Pls explain this.
+1 on burning. it will actually help the soil fertility.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 4:08 pm to Coon
quote:
Plowing/ tilling, etc ain't happening.
Well, you can plow/till with an attachment behind a small tractor - thus my suggestion to work it in small batches until you get it under control. You would need commercial equipment to do that whole thing at one time, anyway, and I figured it isn't going to pay a return. But, 2 acres can be made manageable over time - just need a plan and time to execute said plan.
My elderly in-laws have 1 acre extremely tame. They were able to work it from dirt work up, but still. If they can do it, you can do it baw.
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