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Audi/Volvo long term dependability vs. Toyota/Nissan

Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:34 pm
Posted by High C
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Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:34 pm
Are they comparable? I'm passively shopping used cars. Is there an appreciable difference in dependability between the two groups as they reach the 100K mile mark? Not model specific at all, just in general. Use would be low mileage work car. Less than 5000 miles per year use.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:35 pm to
LNCHBOX should be here shortly to deep throat Toyota's exhaust pipe.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10574 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:41 pm to
Toyota for the lower maintenance costs alone.

ETA: I wouldn't put Nissan in the same class as Toyota.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 6:43 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:42 pm to
It is somewhat difficult to do non-model specific projections but just statistically CR rates all the major manufacturers and out of the 27:

Toyota #2
Audi #4
Nissan #11
Volvo #23

The other positive for Toyota and Nissan is parts tend to be dirt cheap and your local indy mechanic will likely have a lot more experience with them than Audi and Volvo.

IN the end, you really have to be model/year specific to get a solid feel for the issue.
Posted by LZ83
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Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:42 pm to
I truly believe there is not a better value than a Toyota. Longevity and dependability.
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
120453 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:43 pm to
Its tough to beat honda and toyota

But on my 4th Audi, no issues with any of them though i traded all in after 4 years because a car older than 4 years is gross
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34246 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:50 pm to
Take it for what it's worth...

....getting the car inspected, at local garage, I over hear a convo between shop owner and another customer....

shop owner says..." I would die and go to hell before I owned an Audi, out of warranty costs will give you stomach ulcers. They always break. "
Posted by gazelles
Member since Apr 2011
1323 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:52 pm to
If you really want dependability you're still going to have to do your extensive homework on common problems, what early warning signs there are, and do preventative maintenance. If a problem arises, troubleshoot it (can use an engine tuner to read diagnostic codes if there are any, AllDataDiy for guides and diagrams, YouTube, and various forums to help). Purchase all the parts online, and you won't pay any more for an Audi part than a Ford part usually. If not, check eBay. Then fix it.

Point being: it doesn't matter, it's a machine and you take care of it AND have some luck and you're set. You take care of it and have no luck and aren't handy - you're paying a shite ton when it goes south no matter what it is.
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
9666 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 6:53 pm to
Toyota/Honda is where it's at for dependability, and resale value.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29285 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 7:14 pm to
Get a Porsche if you want luxury and reliability
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 7:17 pm to
I had very good luck with VW (low end audi). Friends immediately regretted purchasing a Volvo and had a cousin with the same experience years back, so I stayed away when we bough the most recent SUV even though we liked the XC90.

Only car that ranks higher than Toyota is Lexus and that's probably something they paid the rankers to do so that it was worth paying more for a Lexus. Parents had a lot of Nissan cars/SUVs. cars ran fine, but it was a mixed bag for interior quality. some lasted, some went to shite over time.

Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89986 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 7:23 pm to
I've had no major problems with my Audi's over the last 12 years. The first one I had for 9 years before trading it in for a newer model, then traded that one in when I upgraded.
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 7:32 pm to
Audi S line. One major thing to consider is replacing the timing belt if you're going to keep it long term.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/19/17 at 7:36 pm to
I had a Volvo S60R that I bought new and drove daily up to 150k before I got rid of it, literally the best driving car and least issues I've ever had out of one. The AWD on that car was damn near magical in the ice/snow and rain and the thing was built like a tank but still good looking.

I've had 4 cars since then, including a Toyota, Nissan, and Dodge; all of which had let me down immensely with major issues. The Dodge was a brand new Challenger that I instantly regretted and had me wishing I had my Volvo back (something I never thought I'd utter).

Long story short, if you're looking for safe and reliable Volvo is an extremely underrated in the US market. I have no idea why, as that car was never more expensive to own than any others and you actually got some form of luxury to boot. It also wasn't priced any higher than your average run-of-the-mill car.

Mine looked like this:



While the 2010+ looks good too



Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20404 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 8:10 pm to
My inlaws used to have 3 volvos. Two of them had over 300,000 miles.
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
76579 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 8:15 pm to
I think most modern cars are pretty good. You shouldn’t feel obligated to stick with Toyota or Honda. Those two are still probably the best but other cars aren’t junk anymore.
Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
5167 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:56 pm to
My 2 cents, I was in the market for a SUV. I was looking at the Lexus RX, Acura MDX, Audi Q7, and Infinity F something. My wife's parrain owns a mechanic shop and talked me out of the Audi, said the Lexus and Acura were the most reliable. He said the Audi was an electrical nightmare. I ended up with the MDX - it was the most comfortable and seem to be the quickest.
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9784 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 6:11 am to
Toyota and Honda are the most dependable
Posted by Cracker
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Member since Nov 2009
17770 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 6:23 am to
Nissan has to be at the bottom they are having a hell of a hard time with that cvt trans on anything they put it in
Posted by Capital Cajun
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Member since Aug 2007
5528 posts
Posted on 10/20/17 at 6:24 am to
I know a guy Thad had an Audi, the car spent more time in the shop than he spent driving it.

If you want long term dependability Toyota and Honda kind of cornered the market.
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