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re: Coach O is tweaking the offense?

Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:58 pm to
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There are absolutely zero coordinators in high school, college, or the NFL that have full autonomy and are closed off to suggestions from the head coach, no matter his background. What fricking planet do you guys live on?


Exactly!

All this crap about O not having a say so in the offense is ridiculous, but many bought in hook, line, and sinker.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9125 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:00 pm to
Hey dumbass did you not see the beginning of the Cuse game and how ineffective we were on offense?

Ok now did you see when we made the adjustment right before the half, and after half time how effective we were?

Yep that was that idiot DL coach you speak of and his input. I swear some of you have been dropped on your heads as a child.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:02 pm to
whoopee! yet another O bashing thread with a cleverly disguised title.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9125 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:03 pm to
Well why wouldn't anyone come to the aid of his assistant when what his assistant is doing isn't successful. I'll bet money that if it is successful then he lays off. Anyone would do the same and it looked to me thank goodness he did step in and help make adjustments because after the adjustments we quickly scored.

Thanks coach O. That's what y'all should be saying. Idiots
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:04 pm to
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It's not 100% or 0% It you're too intellectually dishonest to concede there is a nuanced in-between, well, then there's no point continuing.



Well there was a widspread perception that Miles meddled in the offense.

So for O to come out and say that he's going to let his coaches coach, that was an obvious sell to the part of the fanbase that didn't like that Miles was involved in the offense. Otherwise why say it? Do you really think he wanted to spread the idea that he's going to be like any other coach?

Why is Orgeron meddling any better than Miles doing it? At least Miles was an OC before.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 8:06 pm
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59523 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:09 pm to
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Goldrush25


I totally get what you're saying. I don't think Miles meddled quite as much as he was accused of. I bet O meddles even less. But since we don't know what level, why not just wait and hold him accountable for results, rather than the process we are not privy to see.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28505 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:12 pm to
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Someone clearly needs to help Canada, ftr.


We actually agree on something. Canada never excited me, but I at least though he would be average. The play calling has sucked tremendously
Posted by Hair of the Dog
Alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
2205 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:28 pm to
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It's what I didn't understand about the hire. No one wants him to call plays but no one wants him to do nothing either. Why hire him? Is he just supposed to recruit and be a figurehead?


He's a good motivator but right now it doesn't look like there's much to motivate.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22215 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:30 pm to
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Someone clearly needs to help Canada, ftr.



good thing our career DL coach turned HC is there to lend a hand.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:34 pm to
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Ok now did you see when we made the adjustment right before the half, and after half time how effective we were?

I love your optimism and enthusiasm for our tigers, but...

The only adjustment we made before half was convincing Syracuse to rush 3 and 4 guys for that drive. It allowed us to pass block straight up and gave Etling time to survey the field.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58513 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:36 pm to


You people crack me up.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425837 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:47 pm to
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It's not 100% or 0%

we were told it was effectively 0%
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:49 pm to
Far less talent ? Like the 2 NFL olineman? 4th round qb? And quadry Henderson? And James conner who was also drafted. Better oline better qb and solid Rb and slot WR. Give Canada Nathan and a better oline and we would score a lot of points
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425837 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:49 pm to
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Well why wouldn't anyone come to the aid of his assistant when what his assistant is doing isn't successful.

well his assistant is a vastly superior coach to him, so why does his input even matter?

would you trust O telling Aranda, his boss last year, what he needs to change on defense?

O has only implemented, schemed and called a defense once...at Ole MIss, and it was a disaster. he's not a good enough coach to do that, so why would we think his input has any value for a position he's not capable or qualified to do himself?
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22797 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:55 pm to
You read to much into it.
Posted by Number 31
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2016
4178 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:02 pm to
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99% of all posters here think we can tweak the offense. If we can do it, why cant O. He knows more than we do.

Does he?
Posted by Number 31
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2016
4178 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:08 pm to
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quote:
There are absolutely zero coordinators in high school, college, or the NFL that have full autonomy and are closed off to suggestions from the head coach, no matter his background. What fricking planet do you guys live on?


Exactly!

All this crap about O not having a say so in the offense is ridiculous, but many bought in hook, line, and sinker.


There's a difference between collaboration between coaches and the head coach vetoing play calls on the reg. If the latter is happening, Orgeron owes the fans an explanation for lying.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69375 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:09 pm to
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betrayal of "let my coaches coach" is absurd.


So was the, Les doesn't let his coaches coach. But guess what? That absurdity was sold to the dumb arse fans that continue to champion for him.
Posted by Haughtonboy
kansas
Member since Nov 2011
1753 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:12 pm to
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Oh no coach O is too hands off Oh no coach O is now hands on Oh no coach O doesn't coach at all Oh no coach O is coaching too much - The Rant


LOL! Was thinking the same shite!
Posted by Iam_PrinceAkeem
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2011
3119 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:34 pm to
Put Donte on offense please
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