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Enormous waste of time in schools

Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:41 pm
Posted by 75503Tiger
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:41 pm
I have three immediate relatives, one is class valedictorian, with multiple years of Spanish credit and yet none can speak or read very much of the language. Why are schools wasting time providing a subject with no value? Does anyone on the OT know of a success story?
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:43 pm to
Donde Owlie¿
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:43 pm to
Como estas?

muy bien


All you need to know.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56738 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:44 pm to
I have to agree...I took two years of Spanish in high school and can't say that I learned a single thing that has been of use.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73775 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:44 pm to
Teaching kids to "check the box"

They will make great middle management.
Posted by CroakaBait
Gulf Coast of the Land Mass
Member since Nov 2013
3988 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:44 pm to
Qué mierda?
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
20397 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:45 pm to
Doulingo baw.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
80869 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:45 pm to
quote:

I have three immediate relatives, one is class valedictorian, with multiple years of Spanish credit and yet none can speak or read very much of the language. Why are schools wasting time providing a subject with no value? Does anyone on the OT know of a success story?



No

Nobody knows anyone who successfully began learning a foreign language in school and went on to some level of proficiency

We should write our congressmen
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
27243 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:48 pm to
With all of the time we use on Spanish, they’d be better off completely immersing us for two years in the middle of our education instead of using 1 of 7 of our classes in Spanish. I would love to speak Spanish well. But the American system ain’t doing it right.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13087 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:50 pm to
It's not that it's a waste, its that we do it backwards. It should be taught at the youngest ages, immersion is the way. My son goes to a French immersion school and he's learning so much I almost can't believe it.
There is evidence that bilingual children test higher in math and science later on.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18941 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:50 pm to
Well it takes more than three years to really be fluent speaking a language when you only get lessons for one hour, three times a week. Learning another language is very useful, especially Spanish since there has been such a heavy influx of Hispanics. School is designed for academic learning. There is no such thing as a waste of time about teaching or learning.
Posted by MasCervezas
Ocean Springs
Member since Jul 2013
7958 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:50 pm to
:)
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
101227 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:57 pm to
My coworker's kid is going to be going to Columbia for linguistics. She began taking Spanish in late Elementary but also stuck with it and made it a point to use it conversationally (she tutors at the local racetrack with a lot of the backside's kids and some of the parents). It wasn't just a language credit for her towards graduation.

It is what you make of it. Like anything, if you don't use it you lose it.
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 10:58 pm
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18680 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

I have three immediate relatives, one is class valedictorian, with multiple years of Spanish credit and yet none can speak or read very much of the language. Why are schools wasting time providing a subject with no value? Does anyone on the OT know of a success story?



Because, generally with languages, they're "use it or lose it."

I took two semesters of Latin in high school, successfully tested out of the early classes in college and continued on to take a few more semesters there. I have retained a lot of my Latin knowledge because I actually enjoy it and practice it decently regularly.

On the other hand, over the years I've taken Spanish, German, and Ancient Greek as well, and never retained any of it because I didn't bother to practice any of it.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
6234 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:10 pm to
I took a lot of Spanish in school... Only thing I remember is yo quiero Taco Bell.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69951 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:03 am to
You cannot learn a language in a classroom.

You can only learn a language by living where it is spoken.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
21391 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:05 am to
This post is racist
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
37037 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:42 am to
I think high school is more about exposing you to what's out there and see what sticks.

I took 4 years of PE but I'm not an athlete.
Posted by OKellsBells
USA
Member since Dec 2016
5264 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:18 am to
Are you kidding? Spanish is the most useful second language in America for any potential employee in any profession. What is foreman fluent in frickin' French good for?
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 9/25/17 at 3:02 am to
Schools aren't there to make sure your tyke is fluent in Spanish. They just have to provide the opportunity to convince you that they tried.
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