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Should our compliance office lessen the penalty for positive marijuana test
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:08 am
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:08 am
I don't think we would have the suspensions and half the transfers that happened this year. We all want LSU to compete with Alabama, but when was the last time a Player from Alabama was suspended for marijuana use. These are college kids 18 to 21, and with the United States lessening the penalties on marijuana with some states making it legal our compliance office should definitely lessen their policy
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:10 am to broadcaster
How ‘bout...don’t break the freaking law. Are marijuana laws outdated these days...yes. But it’s still the law.
This post was edited on 9/23/17 at 10:11 am
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:10 am to broadcaster
Nope. Can't stay clean you don't play. We can't start enabling players.
*This is coming from a habitual pot smoker.
*This is coming from a habitual pot smoker.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:11 am to broadcaster
I'm certainly ok with not testing for marijuana, but has that really been a reason for suspensions and transfers?
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:12 am to broadcaster
I don't think that they should bother testing for it at all. I'd prefer to see my players high on the couch at home watching a movie or playing video games instead of out at a bar.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:17 am to broadcaster
It's stupid to test for pot. Bama doesn't (well they say they do but lol). Why should we?
Besides, you aren't catching anyone really. There are ways to smoke pot one day and go get tested the next and have it come up clean.
Besides, you aren't catching anyone really. There are ways to smoke pot one day and go get tested the next and have it come up clean.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:58 am to broadcaster
quote:
Should our compliance office lessen the penalty for positive marijuana test
Yes,
Don't smoke the day of the game. Otherwise DGAF.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 11:07 am to broadcaster
Yes. The mj law is dumb and athletics just scratches surface.
Countless productive citizens have lost jobs, incarcerated, and ostracized for it, while the CEO, HSEQ manager, etc gets smashed over the weekend, or even nightly on another drug proven to ruin lives, cause fatal accidents, etc.
It's frickin retarded.
Countless productive citizens have lost jobs, incarcerated, and ostracized for it, while the CEO, HSEQ manager, etc gets smashed over the weekend, or even nightly on another drug proven to ruin lives, cause fatal accidents, etc.
It's frickin retarded.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 11:13 am to broadcaster
It's ridiculous that a plant is illegal in some states.
Hell no players shouldn't be checked for that!
Hell no players shouldn't be checked for that!
Posted on 9/23/17 at 11:16 am to broadcaster
You do know they don't get suspended until after the 2nd or third positive test
Posted on 9/23/17 at 11:19 am to broadcaster
quote:Yes.
Should our compliance office lessen the penalty for positive marijuana test
Keep testing, bring the stated penalties down to the level of our competition. Would give the coaches the ability to moderate the penalty.
There is no NCAA standard to worry about. The reason I mention this is because infractions where you do have to worry about NCAA penalties, on the program, you should have mandatory triggers. Example: academic eligibility. Whole program is at risk if not maintained, so might as well mandate suspensions.
From what I understand, it takes several fails to get multiple game suspensions which is fairly lax in most of our opinions. We do not know the frequency of testing however.
But still, "lax" should be put in context. That context is formed by the law and our peers/competition. If they piss hot combined with an arrest/citation, by all means ramp it up. But without a legal violation we should be doing what our peers do.
The joke of this is that some schools have very harsh penalties for pissing hot. But have no testing regime. So unless busted by the law, those penalties never come into play. But they will cite their "harshness" for PR value but no one ever questions why it never comes to fruition. (Ole Miss??)
I'd hate to see LSU go that route. So I say test, but put the penalties in the hands of the law and coaches. At least the staff knows who is doing it and can watch for other issues, such as late to meetings, etc.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 11:21 am to broadcaster
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Should our compliance office lessen the penalty for positive marijuana test
From what I understand, one positive test = about 6-8 positive tests already.
These guys are given plenty of leeway now.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 11:34 am to broadcaster
I find it interesting that in Nick Saban's LSU "binder," way back in 2001, he forbade drugs and alcohol "in dorm rooms" but tellingly, no blanket forbidding.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 9/23/17 at 11:37 am to broadcaster
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Should our compliance office lessen the penalty for positive marijuana test
no our players should be smarter. Many of them are going to be entering the workforce soon and may be required to take drug tests for their jobs. They need to be smarter. If they know they're going to be drug tested, then maybe don't smoke weed. It's not hard.
This post was edited on 9/23/17 at 11:38 am
Posted on 9/23/17 at 11:40 am to broadcaster
Seems to me that any non performance enhancing offenses should be treated the same way they would for any non student athlete.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 11:45 am to broadcaster
Hell yes. We are at a competitive disadvantage.
We kicked arguably our best player ever off due to pot. It's gonna be legal soon anyway.
We kicked arguably our best player ever off due to pot. It's gonna be legal soon anyway.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 12:39 pm to broadcaster
we should test them as little as possible and do everything possible to help them pass NCAA tests
Posted on 9/23/17 at 12:41 pm to broadcaster
If a player isn't disciplined enough to follow the rules, he doesn't need to see the field. It's pretty simple.
I'm not questioning the safety or legality of weed, only the mindset of habitually ignoring well-known rules.
I'm not questioning the safety or legality of weed, only the mindset of habitually ignoring well-known rules.
This post was edited on 9/23/17 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 9/23/17 at 1:29 pm to broadcaster
If you were an lsu football player would you need to smoke weed?
Nope me neither.
But I really know the value of the experience and not some fricktard wanna be.
Nope me neither.
But I really know the value of the experience and not some fricktard wanna be.
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