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re: Who's the best duo of all time? (NBA)
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:14 pm to PhiTiger1764
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:14 pm to PhiTiger1764
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So that's a 3 year average of 8.6 in MVP voting. Is there 5 players who had a better MVP voting average over those 3 years? Same with the other stats?
Kobe is 7th in PER during that stretch, behind Shaq, Duncan, Malone, Webber, Garnett, and McGrady.
Kobe is 8th in WS during that stretch, behind Shaq, Duncan, Malone, Payton, Garnett, Dirk, and David Robinson.
6th in WS/48, behind Shaq, Robinson, Duncan, Stockton, and Malone.
10th in VORP, behind Shaq, Duncan, Garnett, Payton, Malone, Carter, McGrady, Webber, and Kidd.
11th in BPM, behind Shaq, Duncan, Garnett, Webber, Malone, Carter, Payton, McGrady, Robinson, and Kidd.
Bottom line, Kobe is safely behind Shaq, Duncan, and Garnett, Chris Webber slides in @ #4, and McGrady and Kobe are 5/6.
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:15 pm to PhiTiger1764
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Top 5 is arguable.
It isn't, actually.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:17 pm to WestCoastAg
I am not sure there is a "best"
In no order some that I would nominate:
Shaq Kobe
Oscar Kareem
Stockton Malone
Jordan Pippen
West Elgin
I am not going to nominate the Warriors group as to me its always been 3 of them and KD made a 4th
The Celtics always had 3 guys also.
The 80's Lakers had 3 guys also.
In no order some that I would nominate:
Shaq Kobe
Oscar Kareem
Stockton Malone
Jordan Pippen
West Elgin
I am not going to nominate the Warriors group as to me its always been 3 of them and KD made a 4th
The Celtics always had 3 guys also.
The 80's Lakers had 3 guys also.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:24 pm to slackster
quote:
Bottom line, Kobe is safely behind Shaq, Duncan, and Garnett, Chris Webber slides in @ #4, and McGrady and Kobe are 5/6.
That's fair argument. Thanks for the numbers.
quote:
quote: Top 5 is arguable. It isn't, actually.
Well, it's an opinion. How can a player be a consensus top 10 of all time player yet it's impossible to argue he is top 5? I can easily make the argument for him.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:25 pm to bwallcubfan
I think shaq/Kobe had the potential to be the greatest duo. Just from the versatility of having them both. You have a slasher/shooter in Kobe and you have the pure brute strength of Shaq.
I think that those early 2000s lakers could have been in some epic finals against the late 90s bulls.
No one on those Bulls could defend Shaq.
I think that those early 2000s lakers could have been in some epic finals against the late 90s bulls.
No one on those Bulls could defend Shaq.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:27 pm to PhiTiger1764
quote:It's absolutely not consensus.
consensus top 10 of all time player
Between the Sports Illustrated, ESPN, CBS and Fox rankings, only one has him in the top 10... at #10. He's a long way off from consensus top 10.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:29 pm to PortCityTiger24
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:29 pm to PhiTiger1764
quote:It's certainly outlandish and there is zero argument for Kobe in the top 5, that's not even a debate to be had.
Yea such an outlandish opinion that Kobe is top 5. Anyone with a semblance of a brain has him in their top 10. Top 5 is arguable.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:29 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
Peak T-Mac > Kobe
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:30 pm to theunknownknight
quote:Trying to remember, which Finals did Kobe lose without Shaq? I only remember the 2 peat around 08 and 09 ish.
Kobe went to 3 without Shaq and won 2
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:30 pm to shel311
Moses- Dr. J
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:31 pm to shel311
Lost in 2008. Won 2009 and 2010
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:31 pm to shel311
To the Celtics. They went to 3 straight finals, Celtics (L), Magic (W), and Celtics again (W).
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:31 pm to shel311
quote:
Trying to remember, which Finals did Kobe lose without Shaq? I only remember the 2 peat around 08 and 09 ish.
We lost to the Celtics right before the two peat.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:32 pm to PhiTiger1764
quote:Well, that's not so.
How can a player be a consensus top 10 of all time player
quote:No, you can't.
I can easily make the argument for him.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:34 pm to theducks
quote:Peak DWade is better than Kobe by, I'm guessing, the majority of the metrics/efficiency numbers.
Peak T-Mac > Kobe
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:35 pm to shel311
2008 against the "original superteam" 
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:35 pm to Weagle25
quote:I somehow have no recollection of that lol.
We lost to the Celtics right before the two peat.
Only the game 7 win over the Celtics...because I forgot to record the game and missed 3.5 quarters of it.
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:35 pm to shel311
quote:
It's certainly outlandish and there is zero argument for Kobe in the top 5, that's not even a debate to be had.
1. MJ
2. LeBron
3. Kobe
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:36 pm to PhiTiger1764
No debate, not enough to argue.
No sense in debating something that isn't logical.
No sense in debating something that isn't logical.
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