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Need input in designing duck boat..

Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:26 pm
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:26 pm
About to start building a shallow water boat for marsh duck hunting. Need an open interior to be able to hunt a few guys, but would also like to be able to make some evening fishing trips out of it as well. Have only owned lake skiffs and bay boats, so came to you knowledgeable fellas for some do's and don'ts, and any must-have's.
Appreciate any input!

ETA: best surface drive motor?



This post was edited on 5/30/17 at 9:05 pm
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 8:31 pm to
Double floor with air so it won't sink.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
39178 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 9:25 pm to
we built a mold and laid up six 14' flats with it
couple of things

1) unless you are an engineer there will be some trial and error
2) we had to add on a cavitation plate under the transom because they wanted to hop up and down
3) know your outboard weight and design to that
4) flat bottom is what you want for duck hunting but it will beat you to death in a chop
5) higher gunwales are better
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 10:02 pm to
Running lights built- in to bow. Many ways here is one.


Posted by Timmayy
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 10:14 pm to
Prodrive. Not the fastest or the cheapest but sure as hell you will never get stuck with that full power reverse. Yeah it can be a little bit of a pain in the arse at times but I don't know how many times I have gotten myself out of bad situations in a much larger and heavier boat than some of my buddies with their gator tails and one who has a boss (it's a piece of shite btw don't look at them). In the mud it outperforms everything.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14063 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 10:18 pm to
As far as the motor goes it depends what you will be hunting out of.

If you have mud in the areas you will be hunting you can't do any better than a ProDrive. We hunt in marsh area and have to deal with mud and tides that fall out during hunts. We have never gotten stuck in my buddies ProDrive in the 5 years or so he has had it. He has had to pull out a handful of other surface drives.

If you want more speed and the instant reverse then one of the other surface drives may be what you need.

As far as the boat design. Make it narrow. It will make your boat faster no matter what motor you go with an building blinds around it will be easier.
Posted by djs017
Member since Oct 2014
238 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 11:08 pm to
If only you had a brother who was an engineer with a few years of experience building duck boats.....
Posted by hogdaddy
Krotz Springs
Member since Feb 2010
5153 posts
Posted on 5/30/17 at 11:44 pm to
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22757 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 6:51 am to
Here is recent thread I started. might be time to bump it: LINK

Are you building it yourself or having it built? I am in the process now. I went to Pierre Part and talked to a few guys that build. You can save some money if you source your own aluminum.

I went 18' X 48", round bow as I hunt in marsh. If I hunted timber, I'd get a pointed bow. I ordered the new Gator Tail XD. it is a pretty slick new motor, but untested I will admit. Will source all of my rigging (or do myself) and paint/hydroturf etc. doing two hatches in rear and a 5' front deck with built in fuel tank.


All in all, I think I will be about $13K in, wheres buying a rigged out unit from Gatortail would have been about $20K.

Sure it's a bit of a hassle, but I'm getting exactly what I want and I like the idea of building my own. Kip Gaspard is building it. similar to this config without the pointed bow:

This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 6:56 am
Posted by jdavid1
Member since Jan 2014
2470 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 7:08 am to
I'm in the same boat now (no pun intended). I have a 16ft Go Devil boat with a 35 surface drive now, but I've been wanting to get a new boat built for a while. I want something a little bigger and more capable. I know the must haves for me are crimped sides, , round chine, huntdeck, and an open floorplan.

Who is building the boat?
Posted by Dmaxxx37
Member since Apr 2017
125 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 7:48 am to
I designed/had this one built last August. It's an 1848 with pointed bow/rear hunt deck. Has dual pods in the back for storage, and a removable drop in section in between them with a pedestal mount for fishing. I have interior LED's under the catwalks/in the front storage hatch/in the pods I use when frogging or early in the morning pulling up to the blind to be able to see to get things. Same principle though, open floorplan for more space to be able to put gear/people/dog etc.

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Posted by Cmk07c
Metairie
Member since Jan 2017
218 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:22 am to
For what you want 1848 or 1854. If your hunting 4 guys mods will be in your future for sure. I run a 16x48 with a 37 gdsd. It's a fun little boat, can hunt 3 no problem, but it sucks. Definitely a 2 man boat. Easy to hide, I fish out of it as well. All the guys in my camp are running bigger boats, they carry a load slightly better and are more comfortable if your hunting out of a boat blind.

Seems like 18x60s are getting popular, but I've personally never driven or rode in one. I don't care what anyone says most stock combos struggle to plane 4 guys, assuming your friends aren't all 120 pounds. That's why your going to need mods, or an outboard. Maybe the 18x60 does and hence it's growing popularity.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16295 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:28 am to
quote:

best surface drive motor?


Posted by BLM
ATL
Member since Oct 2011
750 posts
Posted on 5/31/17 at 3:27 pm to
I had a CC gator tail that was pretty nice. Definitely would get catwalks again. Mine were 10" at the widest point. They're great for sitting while landing fish/reaching out of the boat, standing on when needed, using for shell box shelf/coffee cup shelf while blind is up and for the blind to rest on while in the down position. Also, I added rod holders under the catwalks which held 3-4 rods on either side. Nicely stowed the rods/reels away off the floor. I hate having a lot of crap on the floor.

I had the pipe rail all the way down both sides of mine that were awesome for my young sons to hold on to and for use in tying the blind and other misc things to.

I had the rear enclosed deck which I loved for fishing. I hate having to fish off the floor. It was nice having it for storage as well, but not optimal for duck hunting as it makes it awkward for whoever is in the back. All these things add weight but my preference is to have the niceties over speed.

Battery charger was nice as I did not have one prior to owning that boat.

Had a nice Lowrance depth finder/gps which I used A LOT. So glad I had that thing in the marsh and on Catahoula in the fog. Would not own another boat without.

Hydroturf...would not own another aluminum boat without it.

Lastly, I'd look at Prodigy Boats website for some design ques. They've done some cool things like the fishtail transom area setup and the under catwalk trays. Frankly if I get another aluminum boat it will be one of theirs.
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