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Spinoff: Why can't Louisiana be more like Texas economically?

Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:47 am
Posted by White Goodman
Colorado
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:47 am
We have similar natural resources like; O&G, fishing, some tourism and we even have a timber industry. A major difference I've seen is that Texas diversified its economy and isn't dependent on O&G, so when that goes down there's tons of other industries to rely on. Austin has a huge tech scene, central Texas has a ton of ranching, lots of tourism in SA, lots of manufacturing in Houston and Dallas.

I don't see where Louisiana has attempted to diversify its economy whatsoever.and all other industries seem to be dependent on how O&G is doing. There's basically; O&G (down), Timber (down), tourism (probably going down due to NO shootings), Seafood, and then you have a ton of injury lawyers.

Why can't Louisiana allocate resources and employ policies that would make it more like Texas?
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 7:49 am
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:48 am to
Mexicans
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:50 am to
quote:

Why can't Louisiana allocate resources and employ policies that would make it more like Texas?

a. we have a large, LARGE population of lower culture/class. limited education of the mass of these people means they can't work the higher-end jobs and there are indirect issues like how they make public school systems a bad option (TX has great public schools b/c of tehir ISD systems)

b. LA is much more socialist b/c of what this population demands of politicians
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5342 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:51 am to
1) Politicians

2) Oil and gas centers are located in Houston, not Nola, partially due to no state income tax

3) Education (private schools are a must in la if you have the means)

4) Culcha
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11265 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:51 am to
quote:

Why can't Louisiana allocate resources and employ policies that would make it more like Texas?


The same reason a lot of 3rd world countries with resources can't get it together.

years and years of corruption.
Posted by HeadBusta4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
11312 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:51 am to
I have the answer but I will be banned
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:52 am to
Here's an antique map which might contribute a bit-

Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83681 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:53 am to
Texas O&G > LA O&G for starters

not to mention land availability

Texas is huge
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171114 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 7:56 am to
49th in education doesn't make too many smart people.
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
12436 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:06 am to
Political corruption resulted in a lot of companies avoiding Louisiana. I personally know of a company that planned two chemical plants and they got tired of getting shaken down while building the first one. So they built the second one in Oklahoma.

Terrible schools comes a close second.
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:10 am to
quote:

Why can't Louisiana be more like Texas economically?


Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12423 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:10 am to
Corrupt politics, worst schools in the nation, bad infrastructure, crime, taxes.

Most of the educated talent does not stay in Louisiana and raise their families there for the reasons above. It starts with leadership and politics and that's louisiana's biggest downfall.

Texas is known nationally for primary and secondary education, infrastructure, economic growth, and low cost of living. Louisiana is known nationally for getting drunk, eating food, and 'culture'.
Posted by Mir
Member since Sep 2016
2777 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:12 am to
Yall gotta get you some Mexicans to show you how hard work is done. I love Louisiana with all my heart but some of the laziest people on planet
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
9278 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:15 am to
I grew up in Baton Rouge and I love my state. But I've lived in Houston for 17 years now and moving away really opened my eyes. (I've lived in Dallas and Duncan OK as well).

Louisiana has the greatest people in the world. They are generous, kind, fun loving people. And there in lies the problem.

Since the days of Reconstruction Louisiana has been rife with corruption at all levels of government. Louisianians have come to not only accept it, but in a large part, laud it. They allow it. From Huey Long to Edwin fricking Edwards we've allowed and even celebrated the lining of pockets and brother-in-law deals that rob this state and it's people of hard earned money, and scares away businesses that want to build here.

Texans won't put up with that shite. And it shows in the economy, diversity of businesses, and overall growth.

Add that corruption's influence to the LA educational system for the finishing touch. Poorly educated and content to be that way plays a huge part as well.

It's sad to me. I'd KILL to be able to live in BR, close to my family and friends. To be able to call my parents on a Friday afternoon and tell them I'm coming over to visit and I'm bringing the gumbo I made or fresh shrimp I just bought, man, I really miss that I"ve never been able to do that. It's something y'all probably take for granted. Don't. I'm 49 now, my parents are getting older. One day they'll be gone and I'll have missed that opportunity.

But the job prospects and quality of life for me and my family are just way better here in Texas. I wouldn't have nearly the income or career opportunities in LA as I have had here.

So, bottom line. LA is riddled with political corruption and the good nature and ignorance of the populace (in large part) will allow it to stay that way.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:28 am to
Good ol' baws
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30845 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:29 am to
education
Posted by Polycarp
Texas
Member since Feb 2009
5580 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:38 am to
Mention the word taxes in La, and everyone freaks out. We pay a crap ton of taxes over here.
Posted by Skeeter07
Nw louisiana
Member since Oct 2015
127 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:38 am to
Well not to sound, well you know... it boils down to the make up of the demographics. % of people that actually work and produce a good or service vs Louisiana having a very very large % of its population rely on the government and its hand outs.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26924 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:44 am to
Education, education, education.

If Louisiana woke up tomorrow with equivalent public schools to Texas, then I think within two generations the states would be much more akin.

But when your state ranks 49th in the country in education, it's kind of a "you reap what you sow" situation.
Posted by Cypdog
Member since Jan 2014
832 posts
Posted on 12/9/16 at 8:48 am to
The main difference is the people. One is a culture on independence and one is a culture of dependence. That existed well before oil or even the industrial revolution. I am not trying to make a political statement here, philosophically they have different views of the role of government. Louisiana also started out with an aristocracy that did not exist in Texas, which furthered that modern philosophy.
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