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The Decline of Tiger Stadium Will Be Alleva's Biggest Failure (& Legacy)
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:50 pm
The tradition of TS was always night games and crowd noise. That's how it got its reputation. It was intimidating to lesser opponents and disruptive to the stout of heart. Now, it's become mostly a hub for tailgating. Note, I didn't say only. On occasion, it can still rise to the occasion. But those are now the exception.
There are things Joe has little say on - TV contracts, traffic infrastructure (not much different than it was 45 yrs ago), TV timeouts, etc. I don't fault him for those.
But Joe never speaks of the winning combo (nights and noise). He, apparently, sanctions the increase in piped-in music (which only moves TS toward a generic norm). Rarely, do we play a marquee OOC opponent in TS.
I love LSU, love TS (lived in it from '83-'85), and it gives me the sads to what is happening and I can't see Joe even recognizing the concern.
There are things Joe has little say on - TV contracts, traffic infrastructure (not much different than it was 45 yrs ago), TV timeouts, etc. I don't fault him for those.
But Joe never speaks of the winning combo (nights and noise). He, apparently, sanctions the increase in piped-in music (which only moves TS toward a generic norm). Rarely, do we play a marquee OOC opponent in TS.
I love LSU, love TS (lived in it from '83-'85), and it gives me the sads to what is happening and I can't see Joe even recognizing the concern.
This post was edited on 10/3/16 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:52 pm to AlwysATgr
When the wins come back the stadium will too. It had become stagnant under the former coach.
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:52 pm to notiger1997
should have read my topic and everyone on here shitting on my posts before u put this up
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:52 pm to AlwysATgr
Idk I think closing in the endzone on one side was more of an improvement than a decline but maybe that's just me
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:53 pm to AlwysATgr
Alleva rightly gets a lot of shite. But how's this his fault? When we have night games, fans can only be bothered stay past half time if were in a close game against a highly ranked team.
The attitude of the fans ruined Tiger Stadium. It's only electric once or maybe twice a year.
The attitude of the fans ruined Tiger Stadium. It's only electric once or maybe twice a year.
This post was edited on 10/3/16 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:54 pm to AlwysATgr
Need more wins and excitement around the program.
And I'd argue Joe hurt tailgating more than helped which has made the atmosphere worse. Expensive parking, removing tailgating down Nicholson, etc.
And I'd argue Joe hurt tailgating more than helped which has made the atmosphere worse. Expensive parking, removing tailgating down Nicholson, etc.
This post was edited on 10/3/16 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:55 pm to AlwysATgr
Should of added a Jumbotron instead of extra seating
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:58 pm to crewdepoo
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Should of added a Jimbotron instead of extra seating
FIFY. LOL
Posted on 10/3/16 at 8:59 pm to AlwysATgr
I hate Joe Alleva but what do you expect him to do? Chain the exits on the west side shut to keep 60% of the student section and frat boys from leaving?
Piped in music, like you said, is becoming the norm. But seriously what does that have to do with fans being loud unless they are just sitting there bitching about "Mobbin'" playing on 3rd down.
Plus how can people be loud and read their FB feed, update Instagram with a TS selfie or Snapchat somebody?
Piped in music, like you said, is becoming the norm. But seriously what does that have to do with fans being loud unless they are just sitting there bitching about "Mobbin'" playing on 3rd down.
quote:Most P5 won't play a home and home any more. Email Verge Ausberry...he'd give you insight on who they've reached out to. Think Oklahoma, Michigan, tOSU.
Rarely, do we play a marquee OOC opponent in TS.
Plus how can people be loud and read their FB feed, update Instagram with a TS selfie or Snapchat somebody?
Posted on 10/3/16 at 9:03 pm to AlwysATgr
The interior of ye stadium needs a massive renovation. Ask anyone that visited Lambeau this year and they will tell you the interior of the place made the nostalgia second to none.
The restrooms in Tiger Stadium are shite. The lines for the concessions are shite. The absence of modern televisions in the concourses are shite. You spent hundreds of millions putting lipstick on a pig with the recent exterior renovations. It is time the interior got the same love.
If you renovate it, they will stay.
The restrooms in Tiger Stadium are shite. The lines for the concessions are shite. The absence of modern televisions in the concourses are shite. You spent hundreds of millions putting lipstick on a pig with the recent exterior renovations. It is time the interior got the same love.
If you renovate it, they will stay.
Posted on 10/3/16 at 9:07 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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The attitude of the fans ruined Tiger Stadium. It's only electric once or maybe twice a year.
It's not about football anymore its about tailgating. I've been to tailgates in recent years where people in attendance didn't even know who we were playing.
Posted on 10/3/16 at 9:07 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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Alleva rightly gets a lot of shite. But how's this his fault? When we have night games, fans can only be bothered stay past half time if were in a close game against a highly ranked team.
Obviously he should start putting locks on the gates after kickoff like Joe Clark in Lean on Me.
Posted on 10/3/16 at 9:07 pm to AlwysATgr
Alleva has gotten us every night game he can possibly get and he just approved a multi-million dollar renovation of the interior of Tiger Stadium over the next two years.
This post was edited on 10/3/16 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 10/3/16 at 9:09 pm to Sal Minella
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Chain the exits on the west side shut to keep 60% of the student section and frat boys from leaving?
Hardly the only offenders. Agreed on everything else though.
Not saying I agree with those that do leave, but traffic is horrible. I've been to sporting events all over and LSU is hands down the worst. Only one that was as bad was war memorial in little rock in 2006. I give them a slight pass because there was construction. Florida last year? We were damn near 2 AM getting out of town. It's absurd.
Posted on 10/3/16 at 9:23 pm to 4LSU2
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The interior of ye stadium needs a massive renovation. Ask anyone that visited Lambeau this year and they will tell you the interior of the place made the nostalgia second to none. The restrooms in Tiger Stadium are shite. The lines for the concessions are shite. The absence of modern televisions in the concourses are shite. You spent hundreds of millions putting lipstick on a pig with the recent exterior renovations. It is time the interior got the same love.
I can't upvote this enough. The current conditions of TS are such that unless the game is 100% compelling and exciting, there's nothing else at all to help keep people in the seats. Scores that flash by on the ribbon boards 30 minutes out of date. No video look ins on other big games or conference games. Lucky if you can get a text to somebody much less check up on scores or other info. Stale or poor quality food. Just an old concrete bowl that looks like it hasn't been cleaned in 50 years.
I'm sure it's a nice time for the suite/stadium club ticket holders, but the majority of the stadium it's pretty depressing.
Posted on 10/3/16 at 9:28 pm to AlwysATgr
the dorms in Tiger Stadium, one of a kind. Were we the only stadium that had dorms? The bathrooms, TV's and concessions are a joke. Take out the piped in music and bring back some old cheers like hot boudin...
Posted on 10/3/16 at 9:28 pm to AlwysATgr
I think it was kind of a deal with the devil that was in a way necessary.
Seems like back in the day the stadium was peopled with thousands of oil field roughnecks, plant shift workers, plumbers and even some Ozzy and Harriet working class white collar types. They didn't tend to tailgate all day but drive in from everywhere from Houma to Slidell to Lafayette, etc., stopping at one of convenience stores to get a half pint or a pint of whiskey to slip into their sock or even their back pocket. Students likely could sneak in booze too with not much problems.
To afford competitive facilities and construction, they almost had to go to a more corporate based system with suites, club levels, companies buying tickets in bulk and passing them out to customers, etc. and bigger money boosters. Tailgating flourished as companies and individuals made a day long party of cooking and drinking. Makes them less likely to stay full games and to risk embarrassment being flagged in a pat down. Some just sell their tickets or even give them away. Students too risk a several hundred dollar MIP charge trying to get in to the games with booze and I think even in some cases being singled out with in in tailgating areas.
Can't really said they shouldn't have done it. They needed to keep up with the Joneses. But it makes for a different atmosphere.
Of course I could be wrong about all of this.
Seems like back in the day the stadium was peopled with thousands of oil field roughnecks, plant shift workers, plumbers and even some Ozzy and Harriet working class white collar types. They didn't tend to tailgate all day but drive in from everywhere from Houma to Slidell to Lafayette, etc., stopping at one of convenience stores to get a half pint or a pint of whiskey to slip into their sock or even their back pocket. Students likely could sneak in booze too with not much problems.
To afford competitive facilities and construction, they almost had to go to a more corporate based system with suites, club levels, companies buying tickets in bulk and passing them out to customers, etc. and bigger money boosters. Tailgating flourished as companies and individuals made a day long party of cooking and drinking. Makes them less likely to stay full games and to risk embarrassment being flagged in a pat down. Some just sell their tickets or even give them away. Students too risk a several hundred dollar MIP charge trying to get in to the games with booze and I think even in some cases being singled out with in in tailgating areas.
Can't really said they shouldn't have done it. They needed to keep up with the Joneses. But it makes for a different atmosphere.
Of course I could be wrong about all of this.
Posted on 10/3/16 at 9:37 pm to Srbtiger06
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I've been to sporting events all over and LSU is hands down the worst
We sat in the parking lot in Starkvegas last year for 2 hours after the game last year without moving.
Auburn traffic and parking is horrific.
Alabama traffic isn't bad but that's because you have to walk so far to your car if you don't have a pass.
I just don't understand the traffic being such a big deal. I mean LSU's campus becomes like the 5th largest city in the state on gameday. What are the expectations? It's like going to a concert and complaining about crowds and loud noise.
The complaints about concessions and bathrooms are bigger concerns to me. I should be able to go get a drink and use the bathroom in the NEZ during the second quarter and be able to get back before halftime.
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