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re: I just want to confirm the story of why LSU did not pull the trigger last year.

Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:20 am to
Posted by Kingpenm3
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:20 am to
No politician has even had such a negative impact on my life as Jindal.

Posted by billf7095
Member since Jul 2013
537 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:21 am to
Its over. He's gone. Let it go.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119466 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:25 am to
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Its over. He's gone. Let it go.




Oh, I've let it go and happily so. I'm just trying to get the story correct of what has transpired the last year.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:25 am to
Because the unwashed masses are idiots.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16626 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:30 am to
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Why can't LSU come out with a statement that any buyout comes from private funds and does not impact the budget?


Because the average everyday person cannot understand how money is earmarked and that one form of funding does not impact the other.

Also, a lot of the people that were talking about how LSU couldn't afford to fire Miles bc of the budget issues were of the opinion that if the State is having financial issues, TAF should give money to LSU to fix the budget.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20671 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:31 am to
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Absolutely not correct, Alleva had the greenlight and the money and didnt need to gauge anything. The truth about how far the program had gotten off the road is coming.


How is it not true that someone in the AD's office leaked it? It was in the press. Somebody talked to Rabalais at the Advocate. The decision to fire him could have only come out of Alleva's office and it was somehow being shot around the media that he was getting the axe. If it wasn't true, a worth-a-shite AD would have publicly told the media that it wasn't true. That didn't happen.

There is no other explanation for how it was public. If it came out of TAF then it should have been on Alleva to come out and deny it until it had legs. But it didn't and now how everyone doesn't realize how chickenshit he really is is beyond me.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:39 am to
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I think Joe leaked shite, but with the firing of the michigan guy that worked in football ops, I'm wondering if that guy was the actual leak. Its just random to fire les, have O fire cam and then we just fire a random ops guy.


How would a "random ops guy", whether he's a Michigan man or not, know anything about a plan to fire the football coach unless it was sloppily leaking all over the fricking AD's office? This is what I have a problem with. That's your Athletic Director, man. That's the guy who is about to go find your next football coach.

Prayers sent. This AD and eventually fanbase is gonna need it. I was for removing Miles but we have a terrible money man who's at the wheel.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:50 am to
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I just don't understand the negative perception of the buyout. Why can't LSU come out with a statement that any buyout comes from private funds and does not impact the budget?


While that makes sense, you have to see both sides of the argument.
Yes, it is private money and they should never be told what they can and can't do with it. To pay a man 15 million to go away because he can't win football games at a school then to have said school turn around and ask for a government handout to keep the doors open is kind of a dick move. Take your homeristic feelings and love for football out of the equation. Look at it from the governments point of view. Schools were not built to provide a place to play football. They were built for education. Ergo football should take a backseat to education.

Also take into consideration that from the governments view, you just had people pay 15 million because they "love LSU" presumably. Well if you "love LSU", why can you not find it to make sure the money is there to keep the educational part of it open too. Football is not a necessity for a university to be successful.
Posted by TheFranchise
The Stick
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 12:03 pm to
The only part that you have wrong is to sub bel Edwards for Jindal. The term-limited, lame duck Governor would carry absolutely zero weight. He also had zero involvement with the then-up-coming budgetary negotiations which would not take place until AFTER bel Edwards took office
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21687 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 12:21 pm to
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Look at it from the governments point of view. Schools were not built to provide a place to play football. They were built for education. Ergo football should take a backseat to education.


While the premise of this is true, it's extremely shortsighted and borderline stupid to not recognize what a successful football program can do for a university these days. You only have to go back 13 years to see what happened to LSU when the football team rose to prominence back then.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 12:24 pm to
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The only part that you have wrong is to sub bel Edwards for Jindal.


I bet you think Trump won the debate too.

Jindal created the culture where higher education funding was held hostage. But the newly elected Democrat with no political clout, staff or allies came in swinging his dick and threatened LSU administration and they backed down.

I'm sure that's what happened.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12290 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:00 pm to
I see some aggressively ignorant posts here trying to rewrite the history of last November to suit their political prejudices.
John Bel Edwards has nothing to do with this. Nothing.
The decision to keep Les was one that falls at the feet of Jindal, Jindal's appointees with the Board of Supervisors and F. King Alexander. Period.
And not all the BOS appointees wanted to keep him.
You may have good reasons to be critical of JBE and Alleva, but keeping Les Miles on board last year is not among them.
Posted by Pmtiger
Member since Dec 2014
837 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 1:25 pm to
You leave out a couple points that are critical

Angelle is one of a few BOS when approached by Aleva and King are not supportive. The votes were there to make it happen. Angelle fears this is a political nightmare for him ( see the argument of spending money while state is in financial troubles ... ) calls Jindal and asks him to get involved.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12290 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:36 pm to
Angelle is so ambitious, I think he is capable of anything.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22078 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:39 pm to
I doubt Jindal would nix the deal with Jimbo...it appears to be all Alexander.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9726 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:45 pm to
Bobby Jindal....

Such a selfish clown.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12290 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:45 pm to
Chicken,
F. King couldn't have possibly got out on that limb without cover from above, at LEAST at the BOS level.
Posted by OldSarge38
VacherieBay City
Member since Nov 2009
477 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:47 pm to
Summer through the fall of 2015: F. King Alexander is in a tough LSU funding fight with the state who is having its own fiscal issues.
That is pure B.S. because LSU gets no state funding from the school. It does however give money to the academic side. all the money to buy out Les was private money donated for the purpose of getting rid of Miles. Along with Les & Cam Aleva and F"ing" King Alexander should join the fired role.

Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66571 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:49 pm to
And my goodness. Perception will fade away soon enough.

Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:50 pm to
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The most substantial rumor is that Jimbo was ready to make the move from FSU to LSU


This makes no sense to me. Jimbo is winning 93% of his games, won a NC, and is looking at a 44 mil contract, but is gonna pass on that to come face an SECW meat grinder of Bama, Aub., Tex. A&M, and Fla.??? What can he do at LSU that he is not already doing at Fla. St while facing an easier road to the top 4. I would fire an agent who didn't ask me if I was crazy.

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