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Manfred looking at limits on relief pitchers
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:26 pm
ESPN
"You know the problem with relief pitchers is that they're so good. I've got nothing against relief pitchers but they do two things to the game; the pitching changes themselves slow the game down and our relief pitchers have become so dominate at the back end that they actually rob action out of the end of the game, the last few innings of the game. So relief pitchers is a topic that is under active consideration. We're talking about that a lot internally."
I am torn on this, but his statement stinks.
"You know the problem with relief pitchers is that they're so good. I've got nothing against relief pitchers but they do two things to the game; the pitching changes themselves slow the game down and our relief pitchers have become so dominate at the back end that they actually rob action out of the end of the game, the last few innings of the game. So relief pitchers is a topic that is under active consideration. We're talking about that a lot internally."
I am torn on this, but his statement stinks.
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:28 pm to tccdc
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our relief pitchers have become so dominate at the back end that they actually rob action out of the end of the game, the last few innings of the game
this is stupid reason to me
eta: And if the issue is the game slowing down, then put some stricter time limits for guys to come in the game. Oh youre changing pitchers? Ok you have 2 minutes until that guy has to throw a pitch. No slow walk out to the mound b.s. for him to get ready, and talk to the pitcher, and a bunch of warm ups. Hes gotta be ready to go now.
eta2:
ALSO, the two reasons contradict each other. Dominant pitching = faster games.
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:31 pm to tccdc
What are they going to do? Make starters pitch all 9 innings no matter what?
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:31 pm to tccdc
I can think of a half dozen rule changes I would implement before this. As a novice MLB fan, this seems like a gross overstep of power.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:32 pm to tccdc
quote:
I've got nothing against relief pitchers but they do two things to the game; the pitching changes themselves slow the game down and our relief pitchers have become so dominate at the back end that they actually rob action out of the end of the game
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:32 pm to tccdc
Awful. There are better ways to speed up play and "they're too good" is about as bad as a reason could get for limiting the use of a type of player in pro sports. I imagine the MLBPA will have serious issues with this if they start marginalizing the earning potential for relievers and simultaneously increasing the stress and injury risk for starters
This post was edited on 7/21/16 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:38 pm to tccdc
How about the pitch clock in between pitches that is currently in play in the minors? I know it would probably have to be collectively bargained, but that would be a way to speed things up, rather than neutering dominant relievers.
I feel like the improvements they have made the past couple years (clock between innings, clock for mound visits, batter's box rules) have helped to speed the game up. On the other hand, I don't really care if a ballgame takes 4.5 hours to finish, I'll watch regardless.
I feel like the improvements they have made the past couple years (clock between innings, clock for mound visits, batter's box rules) have helped to speed the game up. On the other hand, I don't really care if a ballgame takes 4.5 hours to finish, I'll watch regardless.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:48 pm to tccdc
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have become so dominate
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:54 pm to tccdc
There's plenty of scoring in MLB right now. The game is fine. Just like the idea of taking away the lowest part of the current strike zone, this is also a stupid idea.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 12:57 pm to tccdc
How in the world could he intervene with a rule that forces Managers to put other pitchers at risk of injury?
Posted on 7/21/16 at 1:13 pm to tccdc
Depends on what he means. If he want to end the righty up switch, lefty up switch, righty up switch in an inning by saying you can switch twice and inning or once an inning, that wouldn't be so bad. If he wants to limit how many pitchers can be used in a single game, I don't think that is all that great.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 1:21 pm to tccdc
Need more offense
Posted on 7/21/16 at 1:23 pm to tccdc
One thing I would do is put a stop to taking breaks and letting the relief pitchers warm up after they've probably thrown 20 pitches in the pen.
Aside from injury replacements, relief pitchers should be ready to go when they come in.
Aside from injury replacements, relief pitchers should be ready to go when they come in.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 1:42 pm to tccdc
What a fricking imbecile. When I am paying anywhere from 20$ - 100$ for a ticket, I honestly don't care how long the game takes. Actually, I prefer a little longer game when I pay a gob of money for a ticket. What pisses me off is the no more alcohol sales after the 7th inning. Change that bullshite. If I'm at home watching a game on TV, I'll simply change the channel if a game gets too long or boring
Posted on 7/21/16 at 2:34 pm to tccdc
This sounds really fricking dumb
Posted on 7/21/16 at 6:29 pm to tccdc
There is absolutely zero chance this happens. MLBPU is way too strong to concede giving up either roster spots (jobs) or some sort pitch/inning/change limit which would limit relievers' value ($). He's bluffing.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 7:13 pm to tccdc
That's stupid reasoning. Limit relief pitchers because they are too good.
BS.
Plus Manfred, want to speed up the game?
1. Institute a pitch clock
2. Don't let batters step out of the box and adjust every piece of equipment between pitches
3. Limit trips to the mound. Do like football, a team gets 3 TOs (trips to the mound) per game and that's it.
I think the most extreme measure I would possibly agree with (not that my opinion matters) would be that once in a game a pitcher has to complete an inning unless injured. And I don't really like that but I wouldn't quit watching if thy did it.
BS.
Plus Manfred, want to speed up the game?
1. Institute a pitch clock
2. Don't let batters step out of the box and adjust every piece of equipment between pitches
3. Limit trips to the mound. Do like football, a team gets 3 TOs (trips to the mound) per game and that's it.
I think the most extreme measure I would possibly agree with (not that my opinion matters) would be that once in a game a pitcher has to complete an inning unless injured. And I don't really like that but I wouldn't quit watching if thy did it.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:13 pm to tccdc
I have heard some pretty dumb takes from Manfred already. He seems a bit Dusty Baker-ish.
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