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re: JBE drops the hammer
Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:12 am to Boudreaux35
Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:12 am to Boudreaux35
C students are the ones that usually become the movers and shakers of society. Most innovative entrepreneurs aren't A or B students.
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:13 am to Ingeniero
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I still don't know who you are STA prepared us pretty well for the ACT, you can't deny that. If you did what you were supposed to you'd probably hit ~24 without studying.
Damn. I do not normally run into two STA grads on here. I'm 2002. What year are you guys?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:21 am to Paul Allen
And the mover and shaker C students can pay for their college education. No way the state in this financial situation should be paying tuition for students from middle-class families who are mediocre academically.
What we really need to do is replace the income tax and much of the SalesTax with a big fat property tax. That's a Texas does and we need to follow suit. Jindal should've been able to do it but he wasn't serious about being A governor. Had he done it he might've actually had a shot of the presidency.
Note that Texas, for all the right wing blabbering the politicians do, has 10 times the social services of Louisiana.
What we really need to do is replace the income tax and much of the SalesTax with a big fat property tax. That's a Texas does and we need to follow suit. Jindal should've been able to do it but he wasn't serious about being A governor. Had he done it he might've actually had a shot of the presidency.
Note that Texas, for all the right wing blabbering the politicians do, has 10 times the social services of Louisiana.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:25 am to Overbrook
Property tax? Seriously? Let's penalize people who dare to get married, raise a family and buy a home to support the leech welfare Section 8 dwellers and their like? How about a sales tax? That is a truly egalitarian means of revenue. You consume, you pay. You don't consume or don't have the means to consume, you don't pay.
Not sure why people can't see that.
Not sure why people can't see that.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:36 am to danilo
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We need more barriers (such as cost) preventing people from getting an education
yes, well in a perfect world people WOULD ACTUALLY get an education. Or the education obtained could actually help the recipient. But it sure seems like that isn't happening regardless of how much money we spend or make available to them. I say lets start culling the herd before we send them all to the big catch pen called a university. Then the money we spend may actually help those who will take advantage of the opportunity. The rest can find other forms of employment. Or starve.
I'm tired of paying confiscatory taxes that produce nothing.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:38 am to jbgleason
The only way I would be onboard with that would be if the right to vote was restricted to those who owned property.
Let's go back to the good ol days.
Let's go back to the good ol days.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:41 am to Paul Allen
quote:Unbelievably, there is some truth to this.
C students are the ones that usually become the movers and shakers of society. Most innovative entrepreneurs aren't A or B students
The reason is the great students have all the answers but the C students have all the questions.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:42 am to Bullfrog
Of course there's truth to it. I've been told that my entire life.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:45 am to Paul Allen
Well the unbelievable part was that you posted something that was accurate. 
Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:45 am to Bullfrog
Instead of making the ACT 26 why don't TOPS not start until a student has passed a year of college first? This would eliminate all the kids going to college because it is almost free with TOPS but have no chance of graduating.
There are plenty of kids who do not do well on standardized test but will graduate college!
There are plenty of kids who do not do well on standardized test but will graduate college!
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 7:47 am
Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:47 am to Paul Allen
My sons class has 50 students I believe. His counselor said a while back when the talk was I believe a 28, that only 5 or 6 in his class would qualify (can't remember which).
He has a 29 and a 3.56 gpa; there are some with 4.0 gpa that don't have a 26 (and some of these I KNOW did ACT prep classes).
I don't know that gpa is always correlated with ACT.
He has a 29 and a 3.56 gpa; there are some with 4.0 gpa that don't have a 26 (and some of these I KNOW did ACT prep classes).
I don't know that gpa is always correlated with ACT.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:48 am to KLSU
I don't know why it can't be "you pay and we'll pay you back at the end of the semester ... IF YOU MAKE THE GRADE".
Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:50 am to tiger91
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I don't know why it can't be "you pay and we'll pay you back at the end of the semester ... IF YOU MAKE THE GRADE".
Good Idea as well!
Posted on 4/13/16 at 7:55 am to jbgleason
sales taxes kill the poor and low income families, which I guess is the idea. They consume most of their income because they have no choice. Some people act like they don't use government services. I guess roads and court systems and universities come from pixie dust.
Sales tax is a massive wealth transfer from the poor to the wealthy. As is the market skewing corporate welfare that so many love. Welcome to right wing wealth redistribution.
Sales tax is a massive wealth transfer from the poor to the wealthy. As is the market skewing corporate welfare that so many love. Welcome to right wing wealth redistribution.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:10 am to Overbrook
I lived in Louisiana for 19 years and now Texas for the last 10.
There is value to doing away with state income tax and levying property taxes. The ISD systems here work as public schools rank highly, especially here in DFW.
The one problem though is Louisiana is not diverse enough economically to survive downturns in O&G without having to make drastic changes to social and economical programs.
This is where Texas has recognized it's gaps and addressed accordingly. The Tech / Insurance sectors have blown up over the last decade here and continue to grow. Even in O&G downturn.
You kill education and you kill the chance to diversify your economy. I was one of those students who left the state and is now using my EE degree in Texas.
The real issue is how to get so many people off the social tiddy of the government. New Orleans is essentially a reflection of the economic times of the State.
You can't get white collar jobs to Louisiana without skilled workers. Oil and gas remains a foothold here because it's predominantly the only way in Louisiana outside of entrepreneurship and medical, to gain an over US median income.
Louisiana is run like Wal Mart.
There is value to doing away with state income tax and levying property taxes. The ISD systems here work as public schools rank highly, especially here in DFW.
The one problem though is Louisiana is not diverse enough economically to survive downturns in O&G without having to make drastic changes to social and economical programs.
This is where Texas has recognized it's gaps and addressed accordingly. The Tech / Insurance sectors have blown up over the last decade here and continue to grow. Even in O&G downturn.
You kill education and you kill the chance to diversify your economy. I was one of those students who left the state and is now using my EE degree in Texas.
The real issue is how to get so many people off the social tiddy of the government. New Orleans is essentially a reflection of the economic times of the State.
You can't get white collar jobs to Louisiana without skilled workers. Oil and gas remains a foothold here because it's predominantly the only way in Louisiana outside of entrepreneurship and medical, to gain an over US median income.
Louisiana is run like Wal Mart.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:11 am to foj1981
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Going to cut TOPS by 62%. Minimum ACT 26
I'm sure there will be waivers for certain demographic and ethnic groups, but it's a start.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:20 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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I'm sure there will be waivers for certain demographic and ethnic groups, but it's a start.
Should there be???
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:36 am to magildachunks
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Truth is, the standards got so low everybody qualified for it.
Basically, it turned into a Sanders Program.
A Sanders program would be more selective than TOPS.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:56 am to thejudge
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Id rather see the act drop down to 24 but cap the payouts. Keep the school from just jacking rates every year.
Why not just do like Florida and have a sliding scale?
26 ACT and 4.0 = 100% of state school average
24 ACT and 3.5 = 75% of state school average
20 ACT and 3.0 = 50% of state school average or 75% of community college tuition
Then let the schools come up with other ways of getting their money from students or God forbid learn how to educate more efficiently.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:05 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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I'm sure there will be waivers for certain demographic and ethnic groups, but it's a start.
Which is absolute bullshite. I'd have zero issue with this raise in requirements if it were across the board.
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