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Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:20 am to supatigah
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Then the strong arm tactics used on the Class B and Class C schools to decide an issue on a sport they dont play was salt on the wound.
to be fair, the split passed without needing a single vote in class B or C
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:21 am to Draconian Sanctions
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can someone explain to my why there was a split in the first place?
Public schools crying about it....alot
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:23 am to Draconian Sanctions
The "unfair" advantage that private schools have of recruiting players from all over.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:24 am to chalmetteowl
Let all schools bring in regional kids like private schools can then. Its not fair private school can draw from nearby areas when public can draw only from district.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:26 am to Draconian Sanctions
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crying about what exactly
Exhibit A
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Let all schools bring in regional kids like private schools can then. Its not fair private school can draw from nearby areas when public can draw only from district
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:28 am to RGJ18
so why didn't they just change the rule to let the public schools bring in kids from the same area as privates?
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:29 am to chalmetteowl
total split coming anyway.... too much bad blood.
nearly every public coach, principal or AD i have come in contact wants full split now in all sports.. at least 8 out of 10
nearly every public coach, principal or AD i have come in contact wants full split now in all sports.. at least 8 out of 10
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 11:32 am
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:32 am to Draconian Sanctions
It's really just a couple private schools that really pissed people off, John Curtis and Evangel. The main reason is that they were playing in 2A and winning every single year.
Pretty easy solution is for John Curtis and Evangel to play up to 5A. Well what do you know, the split happens and both schools play up to the new "Division 1 - Select" division so now they're playing with the big boys like everyone wanted. And guess who hasn't won the state championship since playing up in the last 2 years? JC and Evangel.
Pretty easy solution is for John Curtis and Evangel to play up to 5A. Well what do you know, the split happens and both schools play up to the new "Division 1 - Select" division so now they're playing with the big boys like everyone wanted. And guess who hasn't won the state championship since playing up in the last 2 years? JC and Evangel.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:35 am to Draconian Sanctions
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can someone explain to my why there was a split in the first place?
A. all the private and Catholic schools became scapegoats for Curtis and Evangel being in class 2A with 5A quality football teams.
B. there are legitimate issues with attendance zones allowing Chalmette residents to attend Brother Martin, but not allowing Gentilly residents to attend Chalmette and so on throughout the state.
C. Per student, most of the LHSAA's voting power is concentrated in rural small public schools. For example, West Monroe has the same single vote as Central of Jonesville
what has been done
A. Curtis and Evangel both requested to play up to class 5A at the last reclassification
B. LHSAA attendance zones became the parish a school is located in, even if the local school board still enforces theirs
C. Big changes that can be driven by that imbalance of power now need to go before the executive committee
what needs to be done
A. Eddie Bonine needs to be the final authority on what classifications teams play at, in case a school pops up with disproportionate results like Curtis in 2A, etc.
B. Statewide open enrollment, but this is not up to the LHSAA and is complicated by pending desegregation lawsuits. School districts should still be able to refuse out of district students they don't want
C. A tiered voting system which gives a bit more power to the bigger schools, such that 5A has a voice commensurate with the influence they wield on the LHSAA in general
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:36 am to RGJ18
To be fair Evangel has played in and won championships in 5A before the split. They never wanted to drop down.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:36 am to chalmetteowl
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to be fair, the split passed without needing a single vote in class B or C
what happened before the vote reflects directly on the outcome of the vote itself. The B and C schools were cornered and it was clear that they were going to vote in favor of the split. So some schools that were on the fence voted to split because they wanted to stay with the majority. I know this for a fact.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:37 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Steve Schneider ?@9SportsDirector
Bonine says @LHSAA official position is football playoffs are back to 5 classes 1A thru 5A instead of split into 9 used last 2 seasons @WAFB
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:37 am to chalmetteowl
They just need to do like Alabama has done. Count private school enrollment at 1.5x per student.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:42 am to Draconian Sanctions
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so why didn't they just change the rule to let the public schools bring in kids from the same area as privates?
New Orleans is mostly charter schools now, and their district is the entire city. Schools like Karr, Landry-Walker, Warren Easton are in prime position to dominate.
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:42 am to choupiquesushi
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total split coming anyway.... too much bad blood.
nearly every public coach, principal or AD i have come in contact wants full split now in all sports.. at least 8 out of 10
their own problem
they didn't want to face the privates in the playoffs then... as I understand it... the privates didn't want to pay the fees to play them in the regular season
the publics created this mess
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:45 am to chalmetteowl
you could improve your thread title, mate
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:46 am to rt3
It's been discussed before. Use a system like Indiana has:
LINK
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In team sports, schools shall be subject to reclassification at the conclusion of a
reclassification period on a sport-by-sport basis dependent on the school’s
tournament series success during the previous reclassification period.
LINK
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:47 am to TheBob
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The "unfair" advantage that private schools have of recruiting players from all over.
I thought it was really funny that the Barbe principal complained about Rummel being able to recruit after they lost to them in the football championship and then that spring their baseball team fielded a brand new senior pitcher that transferred in from 2.5 hours away.
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