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re: Where does Sean Payton end up coaching next season?
Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:13 pm to BayouBengals03
Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:13 pm to BayouBengals03
Hey I just took what BS said as gospel and was too lazy to check the stats.
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:14 pm to craigbiggio
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Billick was a fraud anyway. Offensive-minded coach who went a whole month without scoring a TD with Jamal Lewis and Priest Holmes.
Yes
Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:18 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:Every part of that is dumb
If they don't win that onside kick he loses the SB and is fired 2-3 years ago.
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He's 84-55 as a head coach and would still have two NFC championship game appearances. Simmons goes full tard from time to time
All the time really. He knows almost nothing about the NFL outside of the Pats.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:25 pm to RedRifle
quote:so you suck as a poster?
Hey I just took what BS said as gospel and was too lazy to check the stats
Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:27 pm to RedRifle
quote:I made a thread about him being overrated a few years ago and got shite on
Also Bill Simmons makes a good point about him being an overrated coach.
Ingram would have 4 Pro Bowls if it weren't for Payton 
Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:32 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Priest Holmes wasn't on that team was he? I knew Tony Banks was the starting QB though.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:34 pm to ReauxlTide222
Oh good grief
Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:34 pm to DestrehanTiger
McCarthy isn't a great coach fwiw.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:36 pm to RedRifle
I'm surprised nobody has linked Sean Payton to Texas yet. They're one of the few places that can afford him plus he gets to stay in his beloved Texas.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 4:07 pm to beauchristopher
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Before Sean Payton's suspension in 2012
Since he became a head coach in 2006 with the Saints, NO OTHER COACH IN ALL OF THE ENTIRE NFL had more wins than he did.
None. Not even BB.
That whole Bounty gate BS really did ruin the Saints, the suspensions and time off.. the Saints never truly recovered.. although he did have them win a playoff game since..
So yeah from 2006-2012 Sean Payton had more wins than any other coach in the NFL.. and that is building up the SAINTS franchise.. Think about that..
But he's over-rated? Get the frick out
There is no room for logic in this thread
Posted on 12/8/15 at 4:10 pm to Jcorye1
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McCarthy isn't a great coach fwiw.
I know, but it is a similar comparison. Both are offensive coaches that won a SB and haven't been back since. I was about to say that nobody is thinking about getting rid of McCarthy or that his post-SB years have been poor, but GB is not on a good trajectory at the moment.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 4:21 pm to DestrehanTiger
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Should the Packers have fired Mike McCarthy for doing so little after winning one measly Super Bowl?
After that sack less bullshite coaching job he did in Seattle last year he should've
McCarthy is suuuuper overrated
Posted on 12/8/15 at 4:23 pm to D011ahbi11
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nothing about the NFL outside of the Pats.
He doesn't really have a huge knowledge of the pats either. He knows gambling and basketball but he has a 5th grade knowledge about football. His guest carry his arse on NFL podcasts every week
Posted on 12/8/15 at 4:27 pm to RedRifle
He will be coaching for the Saints. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional or just trolling for clicks.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 5:05 pm to RedRifle
We're the saints dude. We can't be firing the best coach in our history just because of a bad couple years.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 5:06 pm to RedRifle
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If they don't win that onside kick he loses the SB and is fired 2-3 years ago. How many coaches have done less after winning a Super Bowl?
They led the NFL in Wins from 2009-2011. I think they were 2nd behind the pats from 2009-2013
So you think he'd be fired after making the playoffs 5 straight seasons? He's won more playoff games since the super bowl than the saints did pre-Payton.
If we're playing what ifs, can we ask what if the saints only have 2 fumbles against the 49ers instead of 3?
This post was edited on 12/8/15 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 12/8/15 at 5:19 pm to TigerBait1127
I do think, much like another Lousiana sports entity, there's success that has breeded complacisy and a bit of arrogance with Payton and that front office.
The real demise of the saints since 2012 has been poor scouting and the infamous "Loomising". Which has turned into robbing Peter to pay Paul, and he has a bit of Dan Snyder syndrome and wants to win free agency over winning the draft.
I think the Graham trade is just a microcosm of the whole thing. Clearly we won't know if that was a good decision or not for a while although it looks promising given how much Graham has faultered and how good Anthony has looked, but the only reason that trade went down was because Loomis made 50 other dumb roster moves that created the need for a drastic move.
And from what I've read on the ownership ordeal, he seems to have the most secure GM position in the league
The real demise of the saints since 2012 has been poor scouting and the infamous "Loomising". Which has turned into robbing Peter to pay Paul, and he has a bit of Dan Snyder syndrome and wants to win free agency over winning the draft.
I think the Graham trade is just a microcosm of the whole thing. Clearly we won't know if that was a good decision or not for a while although it looks promising given how much Graham has faultered and how good Anthony has looked, but the only reason that trade went down was because Loomis made 50 other dumb roster moves that created the need for a drastic move.
And from what I've read on the ownership ordeal, he seems to have the most secure GM position in the league
Posted on 12/8/15 at 5:24 pm to wildtigercat93
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think the Graham trade is just a microcosm of the whole thing. Clearly we won't know if that was a good decision or not for a while although it looks promising given how much Graham has faultered and how good Anthony has looked, but the only reason that trade went down was because Loomis made 50 other dumb roster moves that created the need for a drastic move.
No doubt, but they did revamp the entire scouting department last off season and it appears that they changed strategies
Payton needs to just let go of the defense all together. I'm not sure if he'd be willing to do that
Posted on 12/8/15 at 5:25 pm to RedRifle
San Fran...just like Alex smith, Kaep will get his second Chance and flourish!
Posted on 12/8/15 at 5:33 pm to TigerBait1127
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scouting department last off season and it appears that they changed strategies
Jeff Ireland was one of the worst GMs I've ever seen, so I was skeptical when y'all got him, but maybe he'll continue to be successful there. I like Anthony as a player and linebackers are always a good investment in the 1st round because if I had to guess I'd say they probably had the highest rate of having successful careers out of the usual first round positions. Peat was a bit of a head scratcher, especially since the best thing the saints are good at draft wise are drafting dudes from Montana st and making them good football players and y'all already have armstead
If I'm the saints, I'm dumping Loomis and grabbing Ted Thompsons right hand man. that stat they had at the beginning of the season where like 99 percent of their roster had never played for another team besides the Packers is frickin crazy to me.
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