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Les Miles "hands on OC" ....lets close this topic

Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Roux-Roux
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 3:58 pm
I keep hearing that Les Miles strangles this offense. Where is the proof. Who is in the know? What if it really is just Cameron?

If you look at Crowton and Cam we ran different styles. We ran spread the year we won the natty in 2007.

So while I am frustrated I wonder where the proof is to state that Les Miles strangles this offense. If anything from he look of things (tv, radio, etc) it seems totally opposite, Les is waaaaaay too hands off and covers for his asst.

So again, how do y'all know it's Les and not Cam?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83630 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:00 pm to
I think its pretty obvious that Les has an offensive philosophy and holds his OCs to that philosophy, but then again, what HC doesn't do this?
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
50964 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:00 pm to
It's Miles' Philosophy..he might as well just call the plays. After Crowton it's become a puppet position.
Posted by Frankie Machine
Member since Feb 2015
86 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:00 pm to
Closed.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158781 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:00 pm to
which reality is easier for you to accept.....
1. This is the Les Miles offense.
2. Miles is incapable of hiring an OC worth a shite.

is either answer good?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

We ran spread the year we won the natty in 2007.


We ran some spread formations. I wouldn't call our offense a spread offense in 2007.

Hell, we've ran spread formations the past few years too

It really isn't about the overall formations or styles either. It is more about playing it safe and not taking any chances with quick routes over the middle after 2008. We saw a glimpse of it on the drive before halftime and it was beautiful
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 4:03 pm
Posted by KingBeingking
Member since Jul 2014
2388 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:01 pm to
I do believe that he has his hands in the offense and dictates pace of play as well of some other major strategic factors. He tells Cam his agenda and Cam rolls with it.

ETA: we tried to run a lot of spread type formations Saturday.
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 4:03 pm
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:03 pm to
How many OCs have we had under Miles?

Youre a bit early for this, pumper excuse schedule doesn't have this one set for release until Tuesday.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
4947 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:03 pm to
D Luge' a Nul you are.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30468 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

Let's clos this topic.


You probably shouldn't be the one to be "closing topics." No offense.
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 4:06 pm
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:06 pm to
Les Miles lets his quarterbacks make the throws when he trusts his quarterback to make the throws and hamstrings them when he doesn't so they don't make a stupid mistake.

That's the reason that the Russell/Flynn/Mett offenses look so different from the Jefferson/Lee/Jennings offenses.
Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
23581 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

Where is the proof



Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11201 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

Where is the proof. Who is in the know?


I had a grad assistant tell me this a few years ago.
He was speaking specifically about the final drive of the 2012 Alabama game (regular season, not NC).
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 4:19 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:19 pm to
I know when Cameron first got here one of the things he wanted to remove from the offense was the toss

His philosophy is that it didn't help set up play action

If you're tossing the ball to the back and then going play action with the hand off then who are you really fooling?

Yet despite this philosophical statement from Cam it's still a staple in the offense. Miles may not be calling plays but he has his hands on the offense in some capacity.
Posted by say when
Member since Mar 2015
1613 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

We ran spread the year we won the natty in 2007.


We had to rotate fullbacks so we didn't wear them out in 2007.
We didn't run "spread".
This is the same offense since Leslie has been here. If you take off those purple glasses, you might be able to see better.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29419 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

I keep hearing that Les Miles strangles this offense. Where is the proof. Who is in the know? What if it really is just Cameron?


quote:

Last year I did a show for the troops at Fort Polk, Louisiana. And it was a lot of fun. But you didn't have to be in the military to be at this show. There were civilians there too. And I was talking about the base, and I mentioned because I toured it that day and had just learned this, that there were forty thousand men stationed there. And this really well-dressed drunk woman hollers out, "Every one of them is a bad frick." I was like, boy, you know, it seems like after thirty-nine thousand times you'd start to think, "Maybe it's me. Maybe I need to read a book."- Ron White
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66832 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:55 pm to
1. people refuse to believe we ran a different offense under Crowton and Jimbo.

2. People always forget how bad our OC situation was when we hired Kragthrope and he was diagnosed with Parkinsons. Stud was a spread coach trying to call pro style plays.

3. People forget that sometimes offenses look terrible. That hold especially true for spread teams.
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6369 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:44 am to
if you look at the stats of Les miles OC at Okie State and then look at the stats now...you would def agree he has his hands all up in the koolaid
Posted by HMTVBrian2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
5760 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:05 am to
We've been running the same plays for 7 years
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61354 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:37 am to
quote:

I keep hearing that Les Miles strangles this offense. Where is the proof. Who is in the know? What if it really is just Cameron?




Actually, this is proof you have not watched LSU since Les Miles came into power. I'm sorry that you can't accept common knowledge, but its pretty damn obvious.

Hanagriff has said it, other coaches have alluded to it, there was an article on Mike Gundy and Josh Henson at Ok. St. where they specifically talked about how they would express their desires to run a spread play, but Miles wanted the two TE's and FB. I have posted this article MULTIPLE times on here. Im disappointed no one reads it, and would rather make shite up.


Here's your sign


quote:

“We had a lot of discussions of what he and I thought would be productive some day in college football that would go on deaf ears with Les because it didn’t involve two tight ends and a fullback,” Gundy said, chuckling. “We joke about that now.
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