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re: Older Employee's Memory is becoming an issue in the office
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:42 pm to GTSwarms
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:42 pm to GTSwarms
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Obviously, a lot of you people have never worked in a fricking office. Some of you are too retarded to read something and say "Wow, I have worked in an office before and had a similar incident occur, here is what we did" So do we terminate her because she has fricking Alzheimer or do we somehow try to help the woman instead of being dickheads like a bunch of you immature pricks suggest? She is a mother, grandparent and widow. Do we ruin her life at her age because she has an issue that she cannot control? That's the whole fricking point of this story
Well then, take my advice (some of it) and help her understand to check her emails every thirty minutes. Tell her to set her watch or phone to alert her. No more "she said, he said".
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:42 pm to tiger91
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I work in a nursing home and it DOES sound like early onset Alzheimers. It sucks. Badly.
It really does, especially the aggressiveness that suddenly is manifested. 55 is so young, but not unheard of.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:45 pm to GTSwarms
Definitely a tough situation from a human standpoint. And then from a business standpoint, she may be protected under ADA, although ADA protection I think requires the impairment to be documented medically, and one thing Alzheimer's patients don't do is readily admit they may have Alzheimer's.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:45 pm to glassman
Firing these mid 50's-mid 60's entitled arse baby boomers is how we're gonna make this country great again.
Oh you forgot how to do your job? See ya granny.
This is why the Chinese are kicking our butts.
#MakeAmericaGreatAgain
Oh you forgot how to do your job? See ya granny.
This is why the Chinese are kicking our butts.
#MakeAmericaGreatAgain
This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:50 pm to glassman
More common than people realize...
The first patient to be diagnosed by Dr. Alzheimer was a German woman in her 40's.
I'd just as soon not know so much about this,
The first patient to be diagnosed by Dr. Alzheimer was a German woman in her 40's.
I'd just as soon not know so much about this,
Posted on 9/22/15 at 6:59 pm to BRgetthenet
If she truly does have early onset Alzheimer's I'm sure losing this job will be the least of her problems. You need to be honest with her and make her go get checked out. At that point, then you can start evaluating whether or not she will work out as an employee or needs to be let go.
Alzheimer's is a terrible disease and very tough on all people that get affected by it - both the sick person and their family / friends / coworkers.
Alzheimer's is a terrible disease and very tough on all people that get affected by it - both the sick person and their family / friends / coworkers.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:04 pm to VetteGuy
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More common than people realize... The first patient to be diagnosed by Dr. Alzheimer was a German woman in her 40's. I'd just as soon not know so much about this,
It sucks. I don't have it in my family tree or genetics, just have close friends who have had to deal with it. Sounds like you have been directly affected. I'm sorry, it is an awful disease.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:04 pm to GTSwarms
This hits close to home because my mother is experiencing the same thing. I don't know what to tell you. The older lady probably has a real issue going on upstairs, and she might be totally unaware, or in denial. I hate seeing it for my mom, but she is stubborn and she plays the victim card when telling work stories to me and my siblings, when we see it at home too and know it's most probably her.
If you are close enough to this woman, try to urge her to have some tests run. My mom is older than her, so it may not be the same thing, but it sounds like it.
If you are close enough to this woman, try to urge her to have some tests run. My mom is older than her, so it may not be the same thing, but it sounds like it.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:05 pm to GRTiger
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GRTiger
Sorry, man. I can't think of many things worse.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:10 pm to glassman
So far none of her tests have revealed anything, but her mother had it, so I assume it's the first manifestations of what is to come. She's still active, energetic, and catches most things, but it's rough hearing a story for the third time in a night.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:15 pm to GTSwarms
It could be a variety of things from a medication she's taking to something along the lines of early-onset Alzheimer's or even a mini-stroke. If she indeed used to be a fantastic employee, I would think you and your company would want to help her out?! Obviously she doesn't realize her memory is fading. My advice is to communicate things to her in writing. Then you can show her in a non-confrontational way that she is indeed missing things. She's not going to respond well to a confrontational approach. Can you imagine what it must feel like to be losing your memory and not realizing it? Anyway, if things get worse I would also contact a spouse or close relative. She likely needs to be seen by a doctor.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:19 pm to GTSwarms
As others have said, document everything. As often as possible, email tasks to her instead of telling her verbally.
Her supervisor needs to be made aware of the fact that multiple people have noticed this, and sit her down to discuss.
Her supervisor needs to be made aware of the fact that multiple people have noticed this, and sit her down to discuss.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:30 pm to GTSwarms
quote:frick you,, this is the mother fricking OT
Obviously, a lot of you people have never worked in a fricking office. Some of you are too retarded to read something and say "Wow, I have worked in an office before and had a similar incident occur, here is what we did" So do we terminate her because she has fricking Alzheimer or do we somehow try to help the woman instead of being dickheads like a bunch of you immature pricks suggest? She is a mother, grandparent and widow. Do we ruin her life at her age because she has an issue that she cannot control? That's the whole fricking point of this story
We're either a plant operator or work at a McDonalds
Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:31 pm to GTSwarms
put up with this for over a yaer. so frickin frustrating. thank god he left
Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:31 pm to GTSwarms
That's very sad. I have no idea what I'd do.
My ex boss had a horrible memory that was affecting all of us, but he was 73 and the CEO of the company, so what can you really do?
My ex boss had a horrible memory that was affecting all of us, but he was 73 and the CEO of the company, so what can you really do?
Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:32 pm to GTSwarms
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So do we terminate her because she has fricking Alzheimer or do we somehow try to help the woman instead of being dickheads like a bunch of you immature pricks suggest?
For one, I kind of like the email idea from another poster. This creates a paper trail. Build a small case of instances where she obviously forgot direct requests. Don't let her do enough to hang herself, but enough that you can then have a meeting with evidence.
Express your concern about her performance, and see if perhaps she is having a personal issue occupying her thoughts. If she is truly having memory issues, that can become a touchy subject.
I'm not an HR professional, and therefore do not know all of the rules. However, if you are suspecting a health issue then you may want to talk with her office friends about your concern. Perhaps they could be a good resource for getting her help.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:33 pm to GTSwarms
Fire her... she'll forget, and then you get free labor.
only OT way to do it IMO
only OT way to do it IMO
Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:34 pm to Sparkplug#1
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Well then, take my advice (some of it) and help her understand to check her emails every thirty minutes. Tell her to set her watch or phone to alert her. No more "she said, he said".
This is good advice. Maybe even get her a dry erase board and have people/her write "to dos" on it as they are assigned. I know it may make her feel badly, but if she understands that it is this or lose her job, she may be more accepting of it.
Posted on 9/22/15 at 7:34 pm to GTSwarms
Ring out her Depends in a cup and drug test her. If she fails then you're off the hook for unemployment and it's social security's problem.
This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 7:35 pm
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