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Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:06 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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they sell out every single game they get as it is.
Yeah but that's because those games are rare so you have people that are interested in checking it out. Having a team there permanently won't necessarily keep those people interested.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:12 pm to Hester Carries
I posted in one of these threads one time that you'd almost need a full division to really make it work logistically although I think that would be pretty stupid. You'd need 3 regional all inclusive training facilities in US and 1 or 2 in Europe for travelling teams.
-3 away games for euro teams would be in Europe, this would then require only 5 more games in America which could be done in two 2 game trips and other trip.
-the cross conference and cross division opponents could play their 2 euro away games back to back and be done.
-the other 2 same placing conference teams would be the other two teams with the potential of travel.
TLDR Basically the European teams would get 11/16 games in Europe between their home and the other 3 European teams and the American teams going there could knock out their 2 away games against the European teams in one stretch.
-3 away games for euro teams would be in Europe, this would then require only 5 more games in America which could be done in two 2 game trips and other trip.
-the cross conference and cross division opponents could play their 2 euro away games back to back and be done.
-the other 2 same placing conference teams would be the other two teams with the potential of travel.
TLDR Basically the European teams would get 11/16 games in Europe between their home and the other 3 European teams and the American teams going there could knock out their 2 away games against the European teams in one stretch.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:12 pm to Hester Carries
Is this the thread where all the logistics experts who can't figure out how to pick up Johnny from karate AND Billy from soccer practice give us the inside scoop on the issues with NFL international expansion?
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:15 pm to Draconian Sanctions
International expansion will happen in the next 15 years. LA is obviously the next priority, but it is probably the next big change.
The American TV market is pretty saturated w/ NFL. International markets offer the best chance for growth. The NFL is doubling down on London w/ a 10 year contract with Tottenham Hotspur for two games a year starting in 2018. I think they would establish a US "home" and just group the games where they play four in the UK then four in the US twice a season. And London is a great city, I think a lot of people would rather play there than Green Bay, Buffalo, or Cleveland.
I think the question will be whether they just do a single team in London or if they try to add in a whole international division. I wouldn't be surprised to see a major push to identify another market in Europe so there could be two teams (I think NFL Europe was most successful in Germany). Or possibly even new teams in Canada, Mexico, or Brazil. Add in an extra bye week and the scheduling would not be that difficult.
The American TV market is pretty saturated w/ NFL. International markets offer the best chance for growth. The NFL is doubling down on London w/ a 10 year contract with Tottenham Hotspur for two games a year starting in 2018. I think they would establish a US "home" and just group the games where they play four in the UK then four in the US twice a season. And London is a great city, I think a lot of people would rather play there than Green Bay, Buffalo, or Cleveland.
I think the question will be whether they just do a single team in London or if they try to add in a whole international division. I wouldn't be surprised to see a major push to identify another market in Europe so there could be two teams (I think NFL Europe was most successful in Germany). Or possibly even new teams in Canada, Mexico, or Brazil. Add in an extra bye week and the scheduling would not be that difficult.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:18 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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it's definitely going to happen, it's just a question of when
If it does happen, I'd like to see them dive in head first.
-Add teams in London, Berlin, Madrid, and Paris.
-Send the Dolphins and the Jaguars to the NFC.
-Consolidate the new 36-team league into 3 divisions with 6 teams each:
AFC East:
London
Berlin
Madrid
Paris
New York - Jets
New England - Patriots
AFC Central:
Buffalo - Bills
Baltimore - Ravens
Cleveland - Browns
Pittsburgh - Steelers
Cincinnati - Bengals
Indiananoplis - Colts
AFC West:
Houston - Texans
Tennessee - Titans
Kansas City - Chiefs
Denver - Broncos
San Diego - Chargers
Oakland - Raiders
NFC East:
New York - Giants
Washington - Redskins
Miami - Dolphins
Jacksonville - Jaguars
Philadelphia - Eagles
Tampa Bay - Buccaneers
NFC Central:
Chicago - Bears
Green Bay - Packers
Minnesota - Vikings
Detroit - Lions
Carolina - Panthers
St. Louis - Rams (move to the NFC West if they move to LA)
NFC (Mostly) West:
Atlanta - Falcons (move to NFC Central if St. Louis moves to LA)
New Orleans - Saints
Dallas - Cowboys
Arizona - Cardinals
San Francisco - 49ers
Seattle - Seahawks
Schedule 10 divisional games (5 home, 5 away), then 3 games against another conference division and 3 games against an out of conference division.
Stick with the traditional 6 playoff teams, 3 divisional winners and 3 wildcards make the playoffs from both conferences. 12 teams make the playoffs out of 36 total teams is a nice balance IMO.
I'm not going to lie, as crazy and unrealistic as it sounds, it would be epic.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:24 pm to slackster
How would the playoffs work for this London team?
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:27 pm to Tactical1
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e only way I could see this working is that they would need some United States base of football operations and travel to London on Friday I suppose.
It's a stupid idea all around.
That's how business flourish .
Sometimes you have to take risks.
I agree with most who say the extra 2,3 hours or so is not that big of a a deal & can be worked out( may annoy some media types).
The Franchise won't be " London's" only , but the EU franchise sort of like the NeW England( not Boston ) patriots ,etc....
People should stop being afraid of change/ taking risks.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:27 pm to lsusportsman2
dud goodell speaks for the owners it's hardly 'his' idea. 
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:28 pm to brgfather129
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Is this the thread where all the logistics experts who can't figure out how to pick up Johnny from karate AND Billy from soccer practice give us the inside scoop on the issues with NFL international expansion?
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:31 pm to slackster
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If it does happen, I'd like to see them dive in head first. -Add teams in London, Berlin, Madrid, and Paris. -Send the Dolphins and the Jaguars to the NFC. -Consolidate the new 36-team league into 3 divisions with 6 teams each:
I realize the NFL wants to open new markets. They should probably pay attention to their home markets though too. What effect would an international expansion have on American fans? I'm already a hardcore football fan who is losing interest in the NFL.
I wake up to College Gameday and watch college football all day/all night until the last game is over and then watch College Football Final. I kind of follow what happens in the NFL, less and less each year. Yaeh, I'm just one fan but I'm sure there are more out there like me. The NFL is just turning me off and an international NFL just seems so wrong, I really don't want to have anything to do with it and probably won't watch.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 1:17 pm to slackster
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Add teams in London, Berlin, Madrid, and Paris.
Not so sure all those markets would be viable. If I recall from nfl Europe the sport was most popular in Germany. Instead of Madrid or Paris you may need to double down in a place where the game is popular.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 1:22 pm to St Augustine
Didn't Edinborough support the Claymores very well?
I know Cologne did as well.
I know Cologne did as well.
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 9/16/15 at 1:28 pm to SoDakHawk
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there are cities in North America that would be interested in teams, Toronto and Montreal in Canada to name two, and probably a few more located here in the U.S. that could support teams.
Mexico City would literally kill to have an NFL team.
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all-time record for an NFL game, set in 1994 when 112,376 watched the Cowboys and Houston Oilers play a preseason game in Mexico City.
103,467 when the 49ers and Cardinals played a game in Mexico City in 2005.
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 9/16/15 at 1:29 pm to Hester Carries
This is where the Saints will end up. London > L.A.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 1:30 pm to St Augustine
Perhaps, I just rattled off the 4 biggest European markets I could imagine.
Additionally, if you have a New York team (Jets or Giants, idc) and the New England Patriots in your division, I think you could place the teams in Cyprus, Croatia, Latvia, and The Vatican and you'd still draw huge crowds.
I actually much rather the idea of an international division with a few American teams than simply a London team. You'd almost have an Olympic vibe to the divisional matches, and New England and New York are great areas for international fans to congregate when the play in the US.
Additionally, if you have a New York team (Jets or Giants, idc) and the New England Patriots in your division, I think you could place the teams in Cyprus, Croatia, Latvia, and The Vatican and you'd still draw huge crowds.
I actually much rather the idea of an international division with a few American teams than simply a London team. You'd almost have an Olympic vibe to the divisional matches, and New England and New York are great areas for international fans to congregate when the play in the US.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 1:43 pm to Hester Carries
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Would they play the first 8 games on the road all in the US and then the last 8 in London, and have a facility in the US?
That, and I bet the game before they leave for the United States trip would be a Thursday game.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 1:44 pm to St Augustine
Germany loved football, from what I understand a huge portion of the people that go to the London games are Americans who live in Europe.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 1:54 pm to BayouBengals03
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higher taxes in the UK
The UK would would have to grant the NFL an exception as condition of London getting a team. With the current tax structure on athletes there is zero chance the NFL goes there.
Under current UK rules, athletes aren't just taxed on the income earned while playing in the UK. The UK also gets a cut of the athletes' world wide income (endorsements) at a tax rate that reaches 50%. One reason why Nadal stopped playing and training in the UK prior to Wimbledon.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 2:13 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Really are you too dense to figure it out? All you have to do is build a practice center that is big enough for 2 teams or build 2 practice centers or work out a deal with one of the many pro soccer teams and use their facilites for the visiting team. Have a visting team play an east coast team and then play to London after that game. Spend the week and practice in London and then fly home. It should not be a major problem unless it is a west coast team in which case you let them play on monday night the following week so they have an extra day to get over jet lag. The flight from Miami to Seattle is 7 hours. London to any east coast city is 8-9hrs and london to dallas is 10 hours and London to Chicago is 9 hours and these are flights on charter jets its not like they are flying Spirit or anything.
Then keep up the US practice facility of the relocating team and schedule 2-3 week road trips when they play in the US.
All this plus London gets a bye the week before each of their two trips to the states.
I don't think you could have 2 bye weeks for the London team(s) (2 teams in the UK makes this so much easier) unless changed the NFL schedule to 18 games. What I would like to see happen is the NFL expand to 36 and have an 18 game schedule. Put one 2 teams in London and then 1 team in Amsterdam and 1 team in Germany. Amsterdam and Germany were the strongest markets for the NFL Europe.
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