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re: Interstellar - things you LOVED and HATED about this movie
Posted on 4/2/15 at 12:47 pm to DelU249
Posted on 4/2/15 at 12:47 pm to DelU249
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I thought "ace is going to love this shite" I guess you know what I'm referencing.
Can't tell if you're sarcastic on this one or not, Fox. But that's mainly your fault, you sarcastic hump.
No - Nolan realized that, aside from his Batman *cough*paycheck*cough* movies, more people would likely see this movie at the cinema than any other - Memento did a wonderful job of unfolding ole boy's memory problem as we went and allowed us to experience part of it with him. But, people complained that it was too complex.
By the time Inception hit, he was just in the habit of, sort of, explaining things to the audience in a dumbed down way - it worked, but people still complained. Interstellar just represents the next logical step.
I don't like being talked down to, but I accept a little of that if the overall product is fairly good. I really don't like being insulted, which Nolan films don't do (or Coens or Whedon - so they still have my business), so we're good.
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Posted on 4/2/15 at 12:53 pm to Ace Midnight
I found interstellar somewhat lacking. Yes, visually appealing and the loose ends were wrapped up. But I found it a complete mess, there was no coherent narrative - just a series of images and themes. I thought the father daughter thing was over done.
They could have shaved out an hour of content and not messed up the movie IMHO.
They could have shaved out an hour of content and not messed up the movie IMHO.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 12:57 pm to Ace Midnight
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Nolan realized that, aside from his Batman *cough*paycheck*cough* movies, more people would likely see this movie at the cinema than any other - Memento did a wonderful job of unfolding ole boy's memory problem as we went and allowed us to experience part of it with him. But, people complained that it was too complex.
By the time Inception hit, he was just in the habit of, sort of, explaining things to the audience in a dumbed down way - it worked, but people still complained. Interstellar just represents the next logical step.
that is probably fair.
spoiler:
the ending bothered me just because of the relative time aspect being ignored... how long did the rest of humanity or NASA plan on leaving Hathaway there? Why was dazed and confused the first guy to go retrieve her?
This post was edited on 4/2/15 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 4/2/15 at 12:58 pm to REG861
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The main problem with it was that it went from Kubrick to conventional pretty quickly. The last 1/4th was wrapped up wayyy too nicely- to the point of being sappy and uninspired. I didn't have a problem with the conceptual ambitions that dominated most of it. But it really cratered with the whole bookcase nonsense.
This. And I was really thrown back by the end, and find it to be a major fault of the film.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 1:02 pm to Ace Midnight
I just appreciated the very classic "star trek" style of explaining things eta; so yeah, no sarcasm
one of my favorite cinema tropes.This post was edited on 4/2/15 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 4/2/15 at 1:20 pm to DelU249
I liked the ending. When talking about a higher dimension, something many people cant understand, the bookshelf gives a slightly better understanding/picture for those viewers. Maybe there is a better way to describe it using visuals, i just don't know. Its not like this movie was ment to only be shown to Harvard Grads.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 1:25 pm to Ace Midnight
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It is an intentional homage to 2001 - executed almost perfectly.
very good point
Posted on 4/2/15 at 1:25 pm to Blitzed
quote:it wasn't the concept so much as the execution, which IMO was awful...and still I thought it was an awesome movie and the ending was really emotional.
something many people cant understand
I don't think it's good when "many" people can't understand a critical point that is the climax of the film...that's just me, but regardless it just felt like the film was moving at this trajectory and took a wild and sudden left turn...I think it recovered somewhat nicely because like I said, even if you were 100% lost, the ending was really emotional and satisfying (how we got to that point was not)
personally I think they didn't want a bleak ending and they had kind of written themselves into a corner. I didn't have a problem with the fact that the black hole didn't crush him into a singularity for the same reason I don't have a problem when the millennium falcon makes all kinds of cool noises in the vacuum of space where sound waves don't travel
Posted on 4/2/15 at 1:32 pm to Ace Midnight
the previews gave me a 2001 vibe, but I didn't realize I was getting something of a spiritual sequel, so I was just floored from the beginning of the expedition to the point where things unraveled...it was awesome.
little things that I loved:
the camera angle for the ship when traveling. It was mounted on the side, thought it was awesome and gave it a more visceral quality with all of the special effects in the movie
the opening of mann's "tomb". It FELT like classic cinema, the tone is really awesome here.
the voice work with the robots. they talk like real people, and I loved it.
things I hated:
anne Hathaway's stupid love speech
the climax (I still feel that everything preceeding the blackhole was the climax, not the other shite)
things that were "meh":
the characters could've been a little stronger. They're not bland by any means.
some kind of implied love connection between the two leads...that kind of connection was never established outside of the fact that hey hey hey just wanted to hit it.
little things that I loved:
the camera angle for the ship when traveling. It was mounted on the side, thought it was awesome and gave it a more visceral quality with all of the special effects in the movie
the opening of mann's "tomb". It FELT like classic cinema, the tone is really awesome here.
the voice work with the robots. they talk like real people, and I loved it.
things I hated:
anne Hathaway's stupid love speech
the climax (I still feel that everything preceeding the blackhole was the climax, not the other shite)
things that were "meh":
the characters could've been a little stronger. They're not bland by any means.
some kind of implied love connection between the two leads...that kind of connection was never established outside of the fact that hey hey hey just wanted to hit it.
This post was edited on 4/2/15 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 4/2/15 at 2:04 pm to DelU249
Yeah it happened quick. I went from WTF is happening in this room, to Ive completely forgot about it as they were is space beacuse of how awesome it was.Then to OOOHHHHH YEAHHHHHHH i get it now thats what was happening in the room.
This post was edited on 4/2/15 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 4/2/15 at 2:04 pm to DelU249
I watched it yesterday as well and I loved every minute of it until the black hole part as well. It devalued the rest of the movie after that happened, imo. I expected a different resolution perhaps but yeah it turned an awesome movie into a just a good movie that I don't care if I see again now.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 2:13 pm to dead money
I would like to know how people would have liked it to end. Did people just want them to find a planet, have sex, the end? Still would have been a good movie but just meh in my eyes. Nolan pushed into the unknown(Black Hole) and im glad it took that turn.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 2:13 pm to mizzoukills
I was disappointed. I thought the movie was alright until the whole blackhole nonsense.
Visually the movie is amazing, but I'm gonna sink 3 hours into the movie again just because it looks cool. I'll just watch Inception instead
Visually the movie is amazing, but I'm gonna sink 3 hours into the movie again just because it looks cool. I'll just watch Inception instead
This post was edited on 4/2/15 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 4/2/15 at 2:15 pm to mizzoukills
LOVED - EVERYTHING
HATED - NOTHING
HATED - NOTHING
Posted on 4/2/15 at 2:29 pm to Blitzed
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I would like to know how people would have liked it to end.
The reunion with his daughter was pretty moving and could have been a good way to end this. The circularity of her dying before him, saving him etc, would have nested well within the larger theme of mankind doing that for itself from the future.
Hathaway retrieval as a focus/ending missed that to me. At first blush it made a lot of sense but doesn't age well upon further consideration... showing someone retrieving her and her blasting off again wouldn't be especially possible to do since the timing wouldn't work (any anyone who went to get her would be returning decades later) but maybe it would have been interesting to see something like one of murph's children be the one to do that... traveling into the future by slowing the relative present?
It would be exciting to be able to see the future after all. Perhaps one of AH's rescuers would plan on staying long enough for several earth centuries to pass? (sequel material worth doing if there were a vision of the future worth showing)
Anyway, I liked an awful lot about this movie. Really enjoyed it overall
Posted on 4/2/15 at 2:34 pm to molsusports
I'll tell you one thing I didn't like about the movie was the casting of Matt Damon. It's not that he was awful, I just couldn't picture a guy like Matt Damon saying those sorts of things, and certainly couldn't buy that Matt Damon was "the best of them" and could convince 11 other people to go on a suicide mission with him. The dialog was awkward coming out of him, and I had a hard time buying it. Nolan should have gone with either Bryan Cranston or Terry O'Quinn for the role, not an A-Lister just because he could.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 2:37 pm to mizzoukills
6/10 on the ENGT rating system.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 2:51 pm to molsusports
Yeah i kind of took it as he's lost his daughter/son,saved mankind, done all of these remakable things in space, and living on that ship would be a bore. Why not just role out and go find Anne, she was never a love interest but she was all he had left. Wouldnt have cared to sit another 15 mins to see that though.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 2:51 pm to Blitzed
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I would like to know how people would have liked it to end. Did people just want them to find a planet, have sex, the end?
Murph dies in the black hole after data mysteriously makes it to his ship from robot. Data makes it to earth. Space stations taking off. /movie
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Nolan pushed into the unknown(Black Hole) and im glad it took that turn.
It's not "that" unknown. You go in a human, you "get out" in teeny, tiny, not-recognizable-as-you parts known as Hawking radiation.
I can't fault the 5th dimensional being nonsense too much but it's pretty much an Aladdin's lamp ending. The "evolution" of 5th dimensional beings (whatever that means) is dependent upon them traveling back from the future, after they have "evolved" into being and then causing the event that allows their evolution? Right. Why not just go a little further back and kill the "blight" when it first appears?
Rub lamp. Genie appears. First wish: please fix the ending of this movie for me. Genie says, just use magic and call it "5th dimensional beings".
Posted on 4/2/15 at 2:55 pm to mizzoukills
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Interstellar - things you LOVED
premise
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HATED
the execution
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