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Logically, is our hope of a SB over?

Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:46 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:46 pm
we've lost 2 games to inferior opponents. now, both were on the road, but we can't punt games against any opponent

why? home field

we can't beat SEA on the road. hell, even if it's not SEA, our team basically requires home field in the playoffs

we can still make the playoffs

we can still win our division

but i honestly think that we've lost our shot at putting ourselves in position to win the super bowl, given our history
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 4:48 pm
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

Logically, is our hopes of a SB over?
Is they?
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:47 pm to
Of course not
Posted by EmperorGout
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:47 pm to
We need to play out of our minds and have the other NFC powers (SEA, really) collapse

not gonna happen sadly
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:48 pm to
We need more luck now, that's for sure.

There should still be hope. If not, just turn in your fan card and focus on soccer.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:48 pm to
Unless Seattle can somehow drop 2 or 3 games, home field is a pipe dream and the best we can do is 2 or 3 seed.

Also, Saints management needs to have a real conversation about this defense and the coaching staff assigned to it. This defense may be good but it's giving up way too many game winning drives, think @new England and a couple others last year I can't remember, and then @Atlanta and today. The only reason it didn't happen at Philly is that we got the ball and ran it down to the last second. A pattern is forming....
Posted by THRILLHO
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:48 pm to
Seattle could very well be 1-1 (and GB 0-2) within a few hours.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:48 pm to
We needed an awful lot of things to go against us to wind up 0-2. Even as bad as the playcalling was and as bad as the defense plays, we probably deserve 2-0 more than 0-2.

But Payton's stubbornness would wind up biting us in the arse regardless. Brees' backside of his prime would probably wind up costing us anyway.
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 4:51 pm
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:49 pm to
No. These two close losses will light the fire.
Posted by pwejr88
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:50 pm to
It's two games man. We've played 1/8th of our schedule and not even a home game.

I thought you were smarter than this.
Posted by wayne5w
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:52 pm to
F U C K Y E S A R E Y O U R E T A R D E D???????????????
Posted by gadknot
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:52 pm to
It's not over. If we still win the division we might only have to win one road playoff game. Get the right team and that could happen. Look at 2010 if we beat the niners in that playoff game we have the NFC championship at home. At this point we just need to get a rhythm and hope the defense improves. I still have faith that we go 7-1 at home and at least split our last 6 road games. I thought we would go 11-5 preseason, now I'm thinking 10-6 but who knows
Posted by redfish99
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:53 pm to
It was always about home field. The dream is over . First round playoff loss to somebody like Green Bay / Niners . :
Posted by dcrews
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

Logically, is our hope of a SB over?


Statistically yes. I posted this in another thread.

Since 1990, only 11.6% of teams starting 0-2 have made the playoffs. (23 out of 198 teams)

If the Saints have any intention of overcoming those 88.4% odds against them, they had better shape up and get their shite together, because it's a long road to being that 24th team in the above statistic.
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 4:55 pm
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:55 pm to
Really?

Logically? Absolutely.

If the NFL has taught us anything over the last 10 years its make it to the playoffs then anything can happen. I think we make the playoffs this year.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:56 pm to
Logically, no


Rationally , yes.
Posted by Morgus
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 6:25 pm to
I think yes. Not because of the record in itself though. We just don't look like a Super Bowl team at all.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 6:45 pm to
Logically, yes. This team is already squarely behind the eight ball in terms of getting HFA. They won't do any better than last year without it. I don't know what it is, but Payton's offense is just never consistent on the road. Take last week against the Falcons, they'd run up and down the field and shite themselves in the red zone. This week it took them a half to even wake up. They have picked up exactly where they left off re: road woes.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 9/14/14 at 7:11 pm to
It is week two

Relax

Take a deep breath

We are down one division game and one non-conference game

The media darling Seahawks are up one division game and down one non-conference game

If anything I agree with knat and style and performance are way more important than standings right now

I have a few questions in my mind right now:

Is Brees still a little hurt or is he losing arm strength? Is the vertical pass game DOA?

Is PROB just another FSU functional retard in the NFL and there is no hope for him?

Is the bloom off the Ryan rose?

Why are we so reluctant to change styles if the running game is working?

Who will step up in the lance Moore 3rd down slot role?

IT seems like Ryan is known as a guru and wizard wherever he goes but teams get film on him, expose him and he runs out of tricks. Can you remember a rob Ryan defense that had a rep of being fundamentally sound?

Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10508 posts
Posted on 9/14/14 at 7:19 pm to
It's clear whatever the Saints did this off-season didn't work at getting them ready to play on the road and that is at all levels from coaching to play calling, to play by the players.

I think it will be tough, and if we go by history, losing your first two makes it tough to just make the playoffs much less the Super Bowl, but this team has the talent at most positions to do it.

Brees still is mediocre on the road, especially outside of domes, and the defense has yet to turn into a shut down defense you can trust to win you a game. Last season proved that multiple times. In the end, they have to improve, but its not illogical for them to make a wildcard if not still end up with the 2 seed.

Detroit looked like world beaters Monday night and then got shut down this weekend. Green Bay's defense is just horrible. Minny and Chicago look bad too.

In the East, Philly isn't better than last year and will lose games, but the rest of the East is a mess.

I don't see 3 teams from the West making out this year, but 2 is likely.

In the end, it's not logical to count the Saints out.
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