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re: Man videos confrontation with police who pulls him over . Running stop sign.

Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:38 am to
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Asking why you are stopped and debating it right there and delaying or refusing to comply with a request to hand over your information are two different things.

There is also no need to ask why you are being pulled over. I promise, you will be told.


This times a million.

The driver wasn't looking for information, he wanted to have a debate. He didn't do anything that the cop was asking him to do. In what other way was this supposed to go down?

I've been pulled over 6 times in my life. All 6 times were legit stops, and the cop told me exactly why I was pulled over. I've never had to ask.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10074 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:38 am to
quote:

people misinterpret the fine line of freedom. they assume freedom means they do what they want and convince themselves they answer to no one. you answer to a govt which hires officers to execute laws. im sure there are many a-hole cops, however, they are under unmeasurable stress and get the right to instruct any citizen to shutup and obide their orders. then the citizen uses their rights to argue to a judge their dismantlement.

The bold is just silly and part of the reason police are so out of control. There is no logical thought anymore, just force and mandated respect.

There are legions of LEOs in America. In 2011, Seventy-Two were killed on duty, fifty-three died in car accidents.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 10:41 am
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51958 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:39 am to
quote:

Actually, everytime I am stopped i follow the advice of the ACLU.

1) I roll down my window only a couple inches. enough to hear the officer and hand him my information.

2) Before i do anything I ask why I was stopped.

3) I then tell him I am recording this conversation for both his and my safety.

4) I then hand him my information a required by law.

5) If asked to get out of the vehicle, I roll up the window, exit the vehicle and lock the doors.

6) I will say nothing more but "am I free to go" after being requested to leave the vehicle as the traffic stop has now progressed.



And yet, you are defending someone who didn't follow two of those rulings.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:39 am to
quote:

however, they are under unmeasurable stress and get the right to instruct any citizen to shutup and obide their orders. then the citizen uses their rights to argue to a judge their dismantlement.
yes being a cop is oh so stressful and dangerous if you feel unsafe and fire off a few rounds into a dog or suspect then it is just a paid vacation instead of criminal charges.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
54282 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:40 am to
quote:

This cop was being an a-hole


Yeah, he probably was, but so was the kid.

Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:40 am to
I'm not an attorney nor a cop. I know if you don't sign a ticket it means you don't accept the ticket.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:40 am to
quote:

And yet, you are defending someone who didn't follow two of those rulings.



i mean,the brilliance in this one is just insurmountable isn't it?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54193 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:40 am to
Cop threw out three versions of his story asserting reasonable suspicion or probable cause. The way he looks at the guys windshield after the citizen says he stopped at the stop sign and then the cop says the windshield is cracked, makes me think the stop was bullshite. Having said that, the citizen should have complied with the officers requests while continuing to record the incident and should have remained calm and respectful.

As usual with these videos, both cop and citizen should have behaved differently.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 10:45 am
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:41 am to
quote:

quote: This cop was being an a-hole

Yeah, he probably was, but so was the kid.


Agree with both if these.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54193 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:42 am to
Signing a ticket is just an acknowledgement that you were provided notice. Not signing it is a good way to get taken to jail for a simple traffic violation.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:42 am to
quote:

Seventy-Two were killed on duty, fifty-three died in car accidents.

look how dangerous that is, I wonder how many of those 53 that died in car accidents were at fault vs a citizen being at fault.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17251 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:42 am to
The law in Florida has been amended such that you only have to sign a ticket if it (1) is a "criminal" traffic citation or (2) it requires a "mandatory hearing" in court. Section 318.14(2) of the Florida Statutes provides:(2) Except as provided in ss. 316.1001(2) and 316.0083, any person cited for a violation requiring a mandatory hearing listed in s. 318.19 or any other criminal traffic violation listed in chapter 316 must sign and accept a citation indicating a promise to appear. A citation for a bad tail light, a civil traffic offense, does not require a signature. There is a case currently pending in Orlando Florida that is addressing this specific issue where an officer lied to a motorist that he had to have her "sign" the tail light ticket.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:42 am to
it was a setup by the dude. He was looking for a payday. He probably saw the cop sitting there then purposely ran the sign to get him to pull him over to start videoing.
I think he had an agenda.

Payday.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57595 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:43 am to
Drive should have shut up, taken the ticket, and gone to court. I have never heard of anybody arguing their way out of a ticket.
Posted by Sofa King Crimson
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2008
4134 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:43 am to
it's amazing to me that there are dumbasses here supporting that shitty cop.

Our country gets shittier by the minute.
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:44 am to
Which obviously I did not commit.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
54282 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:44 am to
quote:

I know if you don't sign a ticket it means you don't accept the ticket.



You signing the ticket allows you to leave on your own recognizance pending your court date. It's like you posting bail. Not signing it means you would have been detained.

So, you expect me to believe a cop pulled you over and actually wrote you a ticket, at which you refused to sign (AND told him you would not sign it because you did not want to admit to being guilty), then he just let you go?

I guess he had confetti party in his car.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:44 am to
some people just love to lick boots
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:44 am to
quote:

it's amazing to me that there are dumbasses here supporting that shitty cop.

Our country gets shittier by the minute.

cop may have been shitty but the headline states" Police Officer Yanks Man From His Car & Arrests Him After Being Told He's Being Recorded! "

Did this happen?
Posted by ArchieWho22
Member since May 2014
91 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:45 am to
quote:

JordonfortheJ


you misspelled Jordan
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