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re: Man videos confrontation with police who pulls him over . Running stop sign.

Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:45 am to
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:45 am to
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And yet, you are defending someone who didn't follow two of those rulings.


The cop became violent, there was no reason for him to become violent as the man was not combative. Argumentative, but not combative.

I dislike the police, as they have become militarized, and rarely even know the law.

My choice of actions has nothing to do with my opinions on the actions of another. Or are you of the impression that only strict adherence to a methodology allows for comparison and comment?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54183 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:45 am to
It appears that it did happen, but what the headline reads is pretty irrelevant.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51915 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:45 am to
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There are legions of LEOs in America. In 2011, Seventy-Two were killed on duty.



Be interested to see where you got that.


Because the reality is more than double that.


And by percentage, it is about a third of the fatality rate during the US invasion of Iraq.


So how high of a number is needed until the job is "suitabily dangerous" for you. Just wondering.

Does it literally need to be comparable to a war zone to reach that point?
Posted by TigerHam85
59-024 Kamehameha Highway
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:46 am to
Truthfully, I don't expect anything from you.
Posted by slutiger5
Parroquias de Florida
Member since May 2007
10657 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:46 am to
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There is no logical thought anymore, just force and mandated respect.


By officers? Im sure there are cases of this, however most serve their citizens justly while protecting themselves. This is never understood from the citizen.

This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 10:48 am
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:46 am to
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The cop became violent, there was no reason for him to become violent as the man was not combative. Argumentative, but not combative.
cops and bootlickers don't know the difference. When you are argumentative with them it exposes their short comings and they blow a fuse and turn it physical. Then they hide behind the badge.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57343 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:46 am to
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Then he asks to see proof and the cop says no.


They don't have to show proof at the time of the traffic stop.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53963 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:47 am to
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I don't expect anything from you.


Of course you do. At a minimum when telling lies on a message board you want attention. I guess I did comply with your wish there.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14897 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:47 am to
Both of them acted like assholes
Posted by WG_Tiger23
La
Member since May 2014
504 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:47 am to
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meauxjeaux2



You are a fricking moron.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:48 am to
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It appears that it did happen

so,you are of the belief the reason he was pulled from the car was because he told the cop he was recording him?

Let's get this on record.

quote:

but what the headline reads is pretty irrelevant.
maybe to what really happened but it is completely relevant to me because of this stupid arse ,liberal media spin everything seems to be happening for everything and anything that happens now.
I'm pretty sick of it.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54183 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:48 am to
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,you are of the belief the reason he was pulled from the car was because he told the cop he was recording him?
That isn't what you asked.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:49 am to
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You are a fricking moron.


Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51915 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:49 am to
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The cop became violent, there was no reason for him to become violent as the man was not combative


So what the cop should have done?

Refused to give information after being repeatedly asked calmly. They guy wasn't even attempting to obtain them while talking.


Refused to step out of the vehicle after being asked multiple times.


The cop should have said that the guy called his bluff and walked away?

At the end of the day if someone doesn't do what you must insist they do, the result is always violence.


quote:

My choice of actions has nothing to do with my opinions on the actions of another. Or are you of the impression that only strict adherence to a methodology allows for comparison and comment?


My point is that the only reason why this stop went badly is because the guy didn't do what was legally required of him, which is supported by the fact that he didn't do simple tasks that even your source site states you must do.
Posted by WG_Tiger23
La
Member since May 2014
504 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:49 am to
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maybe to what really happened but it is completely relevant to me because of this stupid arse ,liberal media spin everything seems to be happening for everything and anything that happens now.
I'm pretty sick of it.


Why are you waiting until page five to argue this? The rest of the thread was spent by you saying the cop was right in doing it, but now you are shifting the target, saying that it is the spin of the incident that is wrong.


Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10056 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:49 am to
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Tragically, during 2011, 72 law enforcement officers from around the nation were killed in the line of duty, while another 53 officers died in accidents while performing their duties.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2012/november/report-on-law-enforcement-officer-deaths-released

FYI - there are approximately eight hundred thousand sworn peace officers in America.
This post was edited on 7/23/14 at 10:57 am
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57343 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:50 am to
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Police Officer Yanks Man From His Car & Arrests Him After Being Told He's Being Recorded!


How misleading. The cop seemed to have no problem with being recorded, but had a problem with a person suspected of a traffic violation not following lawful requests.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:50 am to
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That isn't what you asked.


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cop may have been shitty but the headline states" Police Officer Yanks Man From His Car & Arrests Him After Being Told He's Being Recorded! " Did this happen?

Posted by slutiger5
Parroquias de Florida
Member since May 2007
10657 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:50 am to
he got you good.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 7/23/14 at 10:51 am to
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Why are you waiting until page five to argue this? The rest of the thread was spent by you saying the cop was right in doing it, but now you are shifting the target
no,no i'm not. I was discussing two separate issues.

quote:

saying that it is the spin of the incident that is wrong.

this is one issue i have a problem with.
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