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re: Settle a drunken argument: Tyson vs Bruce Lee no holds barred KO match

Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:36 am to
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37531 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:36 am to
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I'm comprehending fine. You're saying that the fight would come down to who gets the first damaging blow. So let's say they are squaring off and neither is cheap shotting the other. You really think Bruce Lee can get close to Iron Mike or any other professional fighter for that matter and not get royally fricked up?


I'm saying it's a misguided question and that's all that matters, yes. If anyone can do just that, Lee or Tyson, it's over. But it's over in a way that people don't want.

I'm saying that in this type of argument, everyone's analysis is really limited to their idea of how it should play out. Everyone is arguing for an epic battle of each fighter playing to their strengths. Punching. Feinting. Blocking, etc. And no one wants to see a kick to the junk, but that's how this really would (or at least should) go down on both accounts.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:37 am to
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Again I'm talking about bar fights and things like that not professional athletes trained to fight. I apologize if that wasn't clearly implied and your jimmies were rustled.
Jimmies weren't rustled. Dumb statement was dumb.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14929 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:37 am to
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I like both of these fighters, but I give the win to Lee, because I feel Tyson will be too aggressive and Lee will be able to take advantage, will Lee be able to go blow for blow, I doubt it, but how many round houses to the head can Tyson take? I just feel Lee's menu is larger to pull from


Jesus. Do you guys even watch modern MMA fighting which is as close to anything goes as we have now?

How many roundhouse kicks do you see performed in those types of fights? How many guys to you see knocked out with those? And lets not say at the lower levels, but the higher levels?

It does happen, but it is rare. The much more commonly used kick is the muay thai style of kicking and much of that is to the legs which in an anything goes match is often more effective for the energy expended and more likely to actually land.

Lee didn't know Muay Thai. He didn't know modern BJJ. He wasn't a great wrestler. He would not be able to hold up to the modern UFC heavyweight champion or many other superbly trained and athletically gifted athletes that now are seen at the upper levels of the UFC.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
35020 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:37 am to
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And no one wants to see a kick to the junk, but that's how this really would (or at least should) go down on both accounts.


In my defense, I did say I think Lee would sweep a leg and take out a knee at the start

What do I win???
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
4554 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:39 am to
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And no one wants to see a kick to the junk, but that's how this really would (or at least should) go down on both accounts.


I agree that if it's no holds barred it would come down to this. I'm not sure a kick to the junk would stop a pissed off Tyson in his prime though.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:40 am to
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First of all, that is a demonstration for show. Second of all, if Lee is so devastating, why did those "unblockable" punches not even phase that guy?

I didn't say Lee was so devastating, you did.

The punches didn't phase him because Lee stopped his punch before impact, which shows both the speed and control Lee had.

And the guy was no chump, that's Vic Moore.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:40 am to
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link?
LINK
Posted by BigSquirrel
Member since Jul 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:41 am to
Tyson in his prime? Tyson would win easily. Bruce Lee is a joke, btw.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76821 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:41 am to
I kind of think Lee wins, but it's not an easy fight for either.

I think Ivan Drago beats both.
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
4554 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:41 am to
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Jimmies weren't rustled. Dumb statement was dumb.


Ok go pick a fight with a guy who is bigger and stronger than you and let us all know how it goes.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
35020 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:42 am to
Is he not talking about Boxing?

So, now we are saying would Lee bee Tyson at boxing?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22237 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:42 am to
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Jesus. Do you guys even watch modern MMA fighting which is as close to anything goes as we have now?

How many roundhouse kicks do you see performed in those types of fights? How many guys to you see knocked out with those? And lets not say at the lower levels, but the higher levels?

It does happen, but it is rare. The much more commonly used kick is the muay thai style of kicking and much of that is to the legs which in an anything goes match is often more effective for the energy expended and more likely to actually land.


What I said way back on page 16 (5 minutes ago )
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37531 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:43 am to
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quote:

And no one wants to see a kick to the junk, but that's how this really would (or at least should) go down on both accounts.



I agree that if it's no holds barred it would come down to this. I'm not sure a kick to the junk would stop a pissed off Tyson in his prime though.




Fair enough.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35707 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:43 am to
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Bruce Lee is a joke, btw


Well, that is certainly a well thought out and stated argument...not.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:43 am to
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Ok go pick a fight with a guy who is bigger and stronger than you and let us all know how it goes.
I've beaten a guy who was bigger than me. What do I win?

at you thinking that's some unheard of feat.
This post was edited on 2/14/14 at 10:44 am
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43316 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:43 am to
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why did those "unblockable" punches not even phase that guy?


quote:

that is a demonstration


You answered your own question, dingleberry
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:43 am to
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He didn't NEED them to fight. This thread is going full retard really fast.



Full retard is thinking a 145 martial arts ACTOR could win in a NHB match with a trained monster like Tyson
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4613 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:43 am to
This isn't even an argument, Lee's whole philosophy behind JKD was why even get hit? His striking distance was insane. I'm also luke warm to JKD like some other poster said. Not only would Lee win but Tyson wouldn't land one punch on that guy. Fight would be over in 60 seconds or less.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57520 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:43 am to
LINK

Watch this all the way through. Pay attention to the teaching, footwork, leg speed, power, and agility.

Anyone who thinks he was just an "actor" is blinded by bias ignorance.
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8634 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:45 am to
I think that an argument could be made for either, but i'm going to go with Tyson. At the end of the day, Lee is giving up almost 100lbs, too much mass. Also, its not like Tyson couldn't take a punch.

I think its Tyson
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