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"Job Lock" ? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!

Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:43 am
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
9282 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:43 am
How is it even possible for these Democrats to say this with a straight face? Has the American spirit of achievement disappeared completely?

Job Lock

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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi says the CBO report vindicates Obamacare, because "this was one of the goals. To give people life, a healthy life, liberty to pursue their happiness. And that liberty is to not be job-locked, but to follow their passion." Pelosi is particularly invested in this view. She's been mocked for years now for her repeated claims that Obamacare is an entrepreneurial bill because it would let Americans quit their jobs to, among other things, "write poetry."

I know I'm not alone in thinking that it was totally worth seizing a seventh of the U.S. economy, polarizing Washington, throwing millions of Americans' lives into turmoil and forcing millions of others to pay more in premiums and deductibles, while spending $1.2 trillion just so we could liberate the Job-Locked Poets! (Whoever seizes that as the name of your new band: You're welcome.)

Now everyone is taking a bow for freeing Americans from the shackles of employment. "People shouldn't have job-lock," Harry Reid declared this week. "We live in a country where there should be free agency. People can do what they want."


And the sad part is, an ever growing sector of the population will ignorantly celebrate this as a good thing. I think we're doomed man. The downward spiral just grabbed another gear.
Posted by Tiger4Ever
Member since Aug 2003
36704 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:48 am to
Heard the perfect summation of the liberal mindset on the radio yesterday evening.

Liberals desire total freedom....from responsibility.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32694 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:49 am to
Not surprising. Didn't she say something like freelance poets and photographers now won't have to worry about making ends meet thanks to Obamacare (total paraphrase)??

eta: yep knew I wasn't crazy

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Think of an economy where people could be an artist or a photographer or a writer without worrying about keeping their day job in order to have health insurance.

-Nancy Pelosi
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 7:50 am
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73552 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:49 am to
There will be a special place in hell for Nancy.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:00 am to
You are being force fed a crazy suppository too big for your rectum to swallow without some complaints from it. That will require another pill to be swallowed. Good Luck!!
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68883 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:07 am to
As the saying goes:

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance,

baffle them with bullshite.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425823 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:13 am to
i love when they try to establish the new catch phrases

however, the problem with their argument is that "job lock" is a function of government policies. if "job lock" is an issue, then they should have addressed the policies that lead to "job lock" and not create more government to create more perverse incentives

more government trying to fix the failures of government
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:41 am to
She's a delusional liberal progressive. Her dream could come to past in a futurist Star Trek-like world where technology has satisfied all needs save the top of Maslow's hierarchy. However, in the real world her philosophy amounts to a convenient delusional excuse for failed policies that relegate ignorant masses to a minimalist existence hoping against hope that the government dependents are placated enough that they don't rise up against their liberal plantation masters.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 9:17 am to
it is true that employer-based insurance is an incredibly powerful incentive to work and to keep your current job, if your only other options are either no insurance or maybe medicaid.

that incentive has been weakened, and now we see an estimated reduction of ~2 million jobs (per CBO) over the next several years because of it.

that might be great news for an aspiring poet, but that doesn't make it good policy
Posted by veerbone
Mangham, LA
Member since Oct 2011
401 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:12 am to
Real Message Nancy Pelosi:

Quit your job. Do what you want. Be Happy. The Republicans and their base will pick up the tab from now own because we outnumber them.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79407 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 10:44 am to
It gets crazier. When the Leftist Instinct reaches ultimate fruition they re-educate you, seize all your private property and kill you. Some centuries they do it 100,000,000 times. Usually your execution is preceded by a lecture.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124668 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 11:51 am to
quote:

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi says the CBO report vindicates Obamacare, because "this was one of the goals. To give people life, a healthy life, liberty to pursue their happiness. And that liberty is to not be job-locked, but to follow their passion.
Yep.
The concern used to be for folks trapped in poverty.
Now it's for the unfortunate Americans trapped in jobs.
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
14378 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 12:14 pm to
Putting the "fun" in "fundamental change".

It's way more fun to stay home and not work.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 12:17 pm to
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And that liberty is to not be job-locked, but to follow their passion.
Me and Ms. Pelosi have vastly different definitions of liberty and freedom.

Apparenlty Ms.Pelosi believe FREEdom means getting free stuff. And liberty means liberating dollars from your neighbors.

Sickening.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 12:21 pm to
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How is it even possible for these Democrats to say this with a straight face?


Hmmm... I tried to think of a spin job that would make Democrats ashamed to attempt. This is the best I can come up with....

Hypothetical: Obama goes nuts because his daughter was not voted homecoming queen at Sidwell Friends School. He storms into the assembly with an AK 47 and mows down 50 of her classmates.

Pelosi, at the press conference the next day: "Well, if you think about it what the President did was actually beneficial for those 50 students. Now, they won't have to worry about being accepted to an Ivy League college; they won't have to worry about finding a good job and a suitable spouse. They won't have to scrimp and save for their children's education. And they won't have to suffer the anguish of growing old and suffering unspeakable discomfort in their final years."
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36129 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

She's been mocked for years now for her repeated claims that Obamacare is an entrepreneurial bill because it would let Americans quit their jobs to, among other things, "write poetry."



So if I want to start a business, I should save up my money, open up the business, but then keep showing up at my old job every day?


The fact conservatives laugh in the face of the problems of most Americans is precisely why you can't win the White House.

In the case of job-lock, business benefits. If your employees are trapped in their job because leaving it would mean loss of health coverage, you can get away with paying them less. So I can see why Republicans would favor policies that are pro-job-lock.

This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 3:13 pm
Posted by oklahogjr
Gold Membership
Member since Jan 2010
36780 posts
Posted on 2/7/14 at 4:52 pm to
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Has the American spirit of achievement disappeared completely?

no the vision of what the achievements are is changing.

I think it's a load of crap the democrats are trying to take credit for it like it was their idea. They all said it would create jobs.

I however don't support what we've come to now in the family structure. Two minimum wage working people can't support a household. They have their kids work as soon as they are old enough. How does it make sense that our first goal as americans should be to get a job and get to work. It's not to pursue your interests, it's not to have a family and spend time with them. It should be to work as much as possible and make a career success out of yourself.
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