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re: Cecil Collins vs Kevin Faulk

Posted on 9/20/13 at 8:52 am to
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 8:52 am to
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"And wasn't letting go". Do you remember the fully healed Faulk standing on the sidelines? It was a little awkward.
It was a good problem to have... I do remember when Faulk got back in (cant remember if CC got hurt himself) he was a beast as well. People had forgotten how good 3 was.

All About 3 !!
Posted by ATLTiger
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 8:57 am to
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Do you remember the fully healed Faulk standing on the sidelines?


I honestly don't. what game was that? Vandy?
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14551 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:05 am to
geez...........this shows up every 3 days on the rant.

the legend of cecil collins.

billy cannon, jim taylor, charles alexander, dalton hilliard, kevin faulk.......all greater. Not even a contest.

I would agree that collins had a great stretch of a few games, but that's hardly enough to compare him to career's of legendary lsu rbs. I would argue that justin vincent's stretch of games at the end of the 2003 championship season was more impressive.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:14 am to
Cecil was the man and everybody on the team knew it.

quote:

Collins had been Louisiana's 1995 Mr. Football after rushing for 7,833 yards and 99 TDs for his career with the Leesville Wampus Cats. However, he had been ruled academically ineligible for the 1996 season. All that season, insiders raved about how Cecil tore up the first string while running for the scout squad.
Posted by Surv1vor1st
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
1549 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:15 am to
I remember going to an LSU practice and Rondell Mealy was looking better than both of them. I'm not saying that he was better, but that was the number one RB group in LSU history.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22052 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:21 am to
Cecil Collins played in three games and people want to anoint him the best ever...

He was good in the three games he played in, but the sample size is way too small to judge him against players that played for much longer.

Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
167005 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:24 am to
Cecil was probably the most talented but if you can't transition that talent onto the football field, you are not the best.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:28 am to
Those 600 yards were impressive enough to get drafted. I cant think of anybody else that got drafted with a smaller resume.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11236 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:30 am to
Collins was also one of the best high school players to ever come out of the state. People knew he was good and couldnt wait to see him play. Then he delivered big time for those 3 games.

This is not a knock on Faulk, its more of a knock on Collins, that he wasted so much talent.
This post was edited on 9/20/13 at 9:31 am
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
13486 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:31 am to
Those of us that actually watched Herschel and Bo know what a real beast looks like. Cecil had it.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14551 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:32 am to
he did play football after that. he didn't play 4 games....break his leg....and then get drafted. His time at LSU grabbed some attention, but he still had to show he could play at McNeese for an NFL team to take a chance on him after a major leg injury.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:34 am to
Cecil was an amazing back and probably more talented than Faulk. Too bad he was an idiot.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37141 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:35 am to
He did actually play for the Dolphins and was drafted in the 4th round, I believe. Then he got arrested again...

That run vs MSU with only one shoe

But Faulk was the better player
Posted by 007mag
Death Valley, Sec. 408
Member since Dec 2011
3873 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:35 am to
quote:

but hey, let's try to throw on 3rd and 3 to close out the game vs. giving to Cecil...
I remember wondering if everyone that'd been crying about not passing the ball were happy now.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85241 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:40 am to
Faulk was better. Period. You can't pretend to know what Collins could have done. Talent doesn't mean shite; results do.
Posted by LSU=Champions
BAWxtard | Tier 1
Member since Apr 2004
22257 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:41 am to
Faulk is the overall GOAT. Collins is the woulda-coulda-shoulda GOAT.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9302 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 9:42 am to
Having watched Collins a few games in high school and his "few" college games, he certainly could have been better than Faulk on the field. Fact is we will never know....

That is the tragedy of someone with that level of talent who just throws it away...... one never knows. Its always "Coulda, woulda, shoulda"...

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56862 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Cecil Collins played in three games and people want to anoint him the best ever...

He was good in the three games he played in, but the sample size is way too small to judge him against players that played for much longer.



It's an opinion of talent...not of accomplishment.

I saw them both. Faulk was GREAT. He was quick as a cat...and ran with very good power for a guy his size. He seemed to always get a couple of yards after contact. His ability to catch the ball made him even better. Plus, he was an All-American type on special teams. The guy could come in and be our best RB right now. You cannot take anything away from Kevin Faulk.

But, from a strict running perspective, Collins was better, IMO. His burst was special, and he ran through tackles. His 4 yard runs always looked like he was a step away from breaking it...because he was.

Collins wasn't the same back after he tore up his ankle. The guy at McNeese and in the NFL wasn't the same player, IMO.
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
9504 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:13 am to
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but hey, let's try to throw on 3rd and 3 to close out the game vs. giving to Cecil...

The offensive genius MORRIS WATTS. And let's throw it to a WR who playing a position he's never played before cause the other WR missed a team meeting the day beforee.
Posted by alumni95
Member since Jun 2004
7591 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 10:20 am to
a recruting story I "heard":

During the recruting process CC (Leesville Wampus Cats) was asked, "Why go to LSU? They already have Faulk and Mealey."

CC's reponse: "I'm better than both of them."

He may very well have been. What a waste of talent and opportunity.
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