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re: NCAA football rule changes for 2013

Posted on 8/20/13 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 1:26 pm to
The targeting rule is going to create controversy all season long. I understand the intent of the rule but during a play the offensive player could easily move his head as the defensive player is in the process of hitting him and create the head to head contact.

SEC refs are going to screw the pooch on this one.
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6925 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 1:27 pm to
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I don't get that either. They say its to have a reasonable amount of time to run a play, but if I spike it with one second left on the clock then I have time to run a play.

What am i not getting about that.

I read it as "There has to be at least 3 seconds on the clock to snap and spike it", not "Get the spike before 3 seconds on the clock".

So if the clock stops for a first down with 3 or less seconds left, the offense cannot line up and spike it. I can't imagine that if the clock is winding down from say 10 seconds, and the team lines up and spikes at 2, they wouldn't allow that.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18687 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 1:32 pm to
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Because you posted the picture.


Fair enough

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164478 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 1:37 pm to
That's a terrible picture to use. That was the play where TM hit the Ole Miss guy along the sideline with his shoulder and the ref threw a flag for helmet to helmet.

That's when Les called TM over and pointed to the scoreboard and said keep playing like that. I've got your back.
Posted by tigercavor
Member since Sep 2006
1816 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 1:50 pm to
How is this "launching"? I guess if they don't want mathieu to hit him in the head, he would have to "launch" at the runners legs.

I am afraid we will see a lot more leg injuries.
Posted by liquid rabbit
Boxtard BPB®© emeritus
Member since Mar 2006
61073 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 1:56 pm to
The NCAA is ruining college football, just like Goodell is ruining the pros.
Posted by JermStone
Beaumont, Tx
Member since Jun 2008
5741 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 2:07 pm to
not to mention now defenders near the line of scrimmage have to worry about 300# line man aiming at their knees now, all while trying not to hit a guy up around the shoulders. I would be pissed if I was a LB and you told me copeland got a 10 yard running start and he could come at me below the waist!
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28617 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 2:08 pm to
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That's a terrible picture to use. That was the play where TM hit the Ole Miss guy along the sideline with his shoulder and the ref threw a flag for helmet to helmet.


While I agree, it's a terrible attempt at a tackle. Wrap up - head up was the way we were all taught to tackle. Today's defensive players (especially DBs) just lunge/leap at ballcarries and lead with their heads and shoulders (just like TM in that picture). No attempt whatsoever to actually "tackle" the guy. I don't think he's purposely "targeting" the head, but with the form he's using it makes it look that way.
Posted by yeauxkneauxit
Dallas
Member since Nov 2007
948 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 2:41 pm to
Not a fan of the 3 second spike rule. Among others but this one seems odd to me.
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 2:49 pm to
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Not a fan of the 3 second spike rule. Among others but this one seems odd to me.


with the NCAA being seen as "weak" right now, will we see more laws like this to "poke" at us and coaches just b/c they feel somewhat powerless?
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
6003 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 3:25 pm to
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Not a fan of the 3 second spike rule. Among others but this one seems odd to me.


agreed. It seems strange that they say you don't have enough time to spike it, but you do have enough time to run another play (other than a spike)
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164478 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 3:27 pm to
You can't actually snap the ball and spike it in 1 second. Maybe they should have made it a 2 second rule but they're not saying you can't run another play.. you just can't spike it and run a play after that. You could run your field goal team onto the field and snap it in 1 second. Oh wait...
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164478 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 3:28 pm to
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It seems strange that they say you don't have enough time to spike it, but you do have enough time to run another play (other than a spike)

I think it should be 2 seconds. But why do you feel that way?

You can either spike the ball and end the game or you can run one more pass play. Your choice.
Posted by CaptainPanic
18.44311,-64.764021
Member since Sep 2011
25582 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 3:40 pm to
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Two players may never have the same jersey number during a game, and if a player intends on playing multiple positions with different jersey numbers, he must inform the referee who will announce the change.
this is just stupid
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20462 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 3:48 pm to
So in the situation like the LSU/Ole Miss game 2009 where a long pass is completed and there's under 3 seconds left, would the refs have just called it or would they give LSU a chance to have the kicking team out there (like they should have) and kick a field goal with time expiring after the snap? I'm confused on that. The way it reads, LSU would never have even gotten a shot to kick if they're saying you need 3 seconds to be able to spike it.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164478 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 3:52 pm to
You're confusing spike the ball with snap the ball.

If there's 1 or 2 seconds left you can either snap and spike the ball and have the game end or snap and kick a field goal or throw the ball and have the game end.
Posted by MexicoTIger
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2013
33 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 4:45 pm to

The automatic ejection for leading with the helmet will hurt LSU bad one day. Probably in a game against Alabama.


(my FIRST post! HELLO Rant!)

Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60717 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 4:54 pm to
Bama will win a game due to an opponent being ejected. It will happen.
This post was edited on 8/20/13 at 4:54 pm
Posted by MexicoTIger
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2013
33 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 5:00 pm to
They are the ones who probably wrote the rule. The entire system is rigged in Bama's favor.
Posted by sportsaddit68
Hammond
Member since Sep 2008
5880 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 5:04 pm to
Bama will win the LSU game due to LSU losing a very good player in a bad call situation.


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