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Is Austin Nola a Liability for Us?

Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:38 am
Posted by Beaux
Down On The Bayou
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:38 am
I hate to be negative but when a coach walks a 260 (Gibbs) hitter to get to your next hitter(nola) , that doesn't say much about the next hitter(Nola). Also when Nola finally gets an at bat Maineri has no faith in him and makes him bunt everytime. He currently is batting below 220 and below 200 in SEC play. At what point does his offensive liabilities outweigh his defense...and I wouldn't exactly say his defense was superb this weekend either, I would like to see LaMehieu back at short and Schimpth at second and Landry back in the outfield, or move LeMehieu to short and Buzzy to second(from what I understand he can play second) thoughts opinions, please understand this is not a flame and merely an opinion. i understand Nola is the future but we need instant gratification for the 2009 year. Contructive compliments and debate is strongly advised
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Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9152 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:40 am to
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and I wouldn't exactly say his defense was superb this weekend

What? Any errors? Missed plays? Explain.

Our infield is tremendously better with Nola at SS. It's not even close.

Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17654 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:41 am to
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when a coach walks a 260 (Gibbs) hitter to get to your next hitter(nola) , that doesn't say much about the next hitter(Nola)

You do realize this is what coaches do against a good hitter with an empty bag and two outs, right?
Posted by cord1321
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2006
2114 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:42 am to
Well as much as i wanna see Leon get one more chance you have got to be kidding me on nola's defense. His defense is superb which is why he is playing. Yes I think his bat is gonna hurt us eventually, but i dont wanna go back to Dj and schimpf. This middle tandem is much better. Also gibbs is swinging a hot bat right now which is why he got walked. He had already hit two balls off the wall tonight which is why they walked him. His average is up almost thirty points in just about a week and a half. Nola's defense is great and for now as long as we're winning everything should stay the same. that is all thank you and have a great day..

Posted by Jrv2damac
Kanorado
Member since Mar 2004
65873 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:42 am to
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52189 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 1:01 am to
Beaux, if I'm not mistaken this is the 2nd thread that you have started in a week questioning Nola. Just let it go man
Posted by tigerbill002
Member since May 2008
2316 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 1:51 am to

Dont get me wrong, I'm disappointed in Nola's BA. BUT. We are playing the best baseball we have played all season and you suggest changing the lineup.

Our infield is playing great at this time. Our defense has found some chemistry. We have enough live bats at this time to compensate for Nola (its not like he never hits the ball). It is a trade off but winning requires a balance between defense and batting and I believe we have that at this time. National League teams deal with this scenario all the time with all their pitchers and they seem to work it out.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 2:06 am to
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Maineri has no faith in him and makes him bunt everytime.


Everytime he bunted tonight there was 1 out or less with a runner on. Nola isn't a power hitter, so he bunts...no shite.

Also we're 10-1 since the defensive changes. I think I'll take it. You're kidding yourself if you think Landry should be batting right now.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41299 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 3:26 am to
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At what point does his offensive liabilities outweigh his defense...and I wouldn't exactly say his defense was superb this weekend either, I would like to see LaMehieu back at short and Schimpth at second and Landry back in the outfield,


We are better defensively at short & 2nd base. More range & less errors. A hit taken away is equal to a hit at bat.

Defense is underrated-Ozzie Smith was a career .260 and one greatest SS of all time.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29350 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 3:38 am to
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Contructive compliments and debate is strongly advised


How's this......yes his defense makes us a helluva lot better than continuing to watch Landry strike out and pop up...you're an idiot....stupid post BTW
Posted by SureMissMyTigahs
FT LAUDERDALE FL
Member since Feb 2006
887 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 7:42 am to
When you are strong defensively up the middle( Gibbs,Nola ,Dj and Mikie) you are going to win a lot of basball games!!! ie 10-1 since the change, Anyone who knows baseball will tell you that.
Posted by Rockerbraves
Greatest Nation on Earth
Member since Feb 2007
8015 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 7:44 am to
Hey I know what it like to question a LSU player on this forum while they are playing decent.

Last year I questioned LeMehieu's play at SS and everyone on this forum told me he's almost a guaranteed MLB hall of famer. They were camparing LeMehieu to the next Cal Ripkin. I agree he's an outstanding hitting SS and on occassion makes some superb defensive plays, but I was never that comfortable on the routine plays like I am with Nola at SS.
Posted by Pheeebs
Member since Jan 2005
10044 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 8:01 am to
C'mon Beaux, you are better than this.
Posted by apacheba
Member since Feb 2007
870 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 8:07 am to
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Is Austin Nola a Liability for Us?


Yes, he absolutely is ... and it's about time somebody said so. Nola is a total washout and so are Hancock (did you see that crappy baserunning Friday night?), Matulis (no way he'll be needed in the postseason) and Mahtook (you hit into a triple play and you lose your scholly punk). Mainieri's got to go if he keeps playing these freshmen scrubs.
Posted by apacheba
Member since Feb 2007
870 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 8:19 am to
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Is Austin Nola a liability?.....what's the problem?...ever since Mainieri inserted Nola at short, we've been playing light-out defense....an offensive liability?....he's probably the best sacrificer on the team...lays down some beautiful bunts...works the count and gets the occasional hit...most importantly, we've been winning ever since the change....that's enough to win me over as a fan..the winning.......of course there are many young LSU fans that count stats over wins and always will think the grass is greener on the other side...like we should change back because Nola isn't hitting like Blake Dean or something....only ranters who don't know shite about baseball would be complaining about Nola starting...i don't see any team that can beat us in a three-game series right now with us pitching, hitting and playing defense the way we are....


Pay attention to this.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56942 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 8:51 am to
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I hate to be negative but when a coach walks a 260 (Gibbs) hitter to get to your next hitter(nola) , that doesn't say much about the next hitter(Nola). Also when Nola finally gets an at bat Maineri has no faith in him and makes him bunt everytime. He currently is batting below 220 and below 200 in SEC play. At what point does his offensive liabilities outweigh his defense...and I wouldn't exactly say his defense was superb this weekend either, I would like to see LaMehieu back at short and Schimpth at second and Landry back in the outfield, or move LeMehieu to short and Buzzy to second(from what I understand he can play second) thoughts opinions, please understand this is not a flame and merely an opinion. i understand Nola is the future but we need instant gratification for the 2009 year. Contructive compliments and debate is strongly advised


I disagree with pretty much all of that.

We are a better team with Nola at shortstop. And, I think he's played very well defensively this weekend. I think he is an upgrade at SS from LeMahieu. And, LeMahieu is a HUGE upgrade at 2nd over Shimpf, IMO.

I think we are 10-1 with Nola at shortstop.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
19065 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 11:19 am to
Beaux, just please stop with your useless threads. Nola is an upgrade on the defensive end, thats what we needed. Mainieri didn't insert him into the lineup because of his bat, but the strong arm he has.

If we have to complain because our Freshman Shortstop isn't setting the world on fire at the plate in his first two weeks as a starter I think we can live with that.

You think so Beaux?
Posted by LSU 3122
Member since Nov 2007
69 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 11:55 am to
go frick yourself breaux
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 11:58 am to
Since his insertion, things are good. I have no problem with him hitting .230. Others are raising their offensive game anyway. And even in 1997, Clint Earnhardt was a sub-par hitter...we still won. Hell, I can name you a >.280 hitter on every c'ship team from Johnny Telechea to Kenny Jackson to Tim Lanier to Conan Horton to Ray Wright.
Posted by LittleJerry
Dallas
Member since Dec 2007
1038 posts
Posted on 5/10/09 at 12:04 pm to
I believe both times put the force at 2nd and/or put the double play on as well. And by the way NOLA is a better shortstop than DJ, no offense to DJ but like Mainieri said better arm, softer hands. I'm going to add smoother and better body position on throws. Also, I believe NOLA was the player of the year in LA, this kid can hit. Leon's a liability not Nola.
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