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Ohio passed a good law aimed eliminating worthless degrees

Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:35 am
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:35 am
If a program has produced less than five degrees annually over a three year period, it's gone.

Kent State's cut list



Ohio University:

This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 9:36 am
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:38 am to
Bachelor of Arts in Physics????
Posted by TrueTiger
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82046 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:38 am to
What's wrong with math and physical science?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28476 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:41 am to
Good thing we are eliminating all study of chemistry, classics, French language, horticulture, math, physics, aviation, geology, and life sciences.

I guess we can only study welding and plumbing. Meanwhile, in China ......
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 9:41 am
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5151 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:43 am to
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Good thing we are eliminating all study of chemistry, classics, French language, horticulture, math, physics, aviation, geology, land life sciences.


You act as if there are students getting those degrees. At only 5/year over 3 years, something else is wrong and it isn't eliminating the class.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
7693 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:45 am to
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Good thing we are eliminating all study of chemistry, classics, French language, horticulture, math, physics, aviation, geology, and life sciences.

I guess we can only study welding and plumbing


There are still schools where you can study them and I think some are still still important, but if there’s no demand at a school for the degree you can’t keep paying professors and entire departments for three students. Somebody has to pay.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7852 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:47 am to
Bachelor of Arts versus Bachelor of Science. Two totally different degrees.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28476 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:47 am to
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You act as if there are students getting those degrees. At only 5/year over 3 years, something else is wrong and it isn't eliminating the class.

Study in math, physics, chemistry, etc., is critical for America's future competitiveness in this technological world. If students are not studying the core sciences, we need to work on promoting interest in the fields, not eliminating the programs.
Posted by uziyourillusion
Member since Dec 2024
650 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:48 am to
They are eliminating the BA version, which is a far less rigorous and arguably useless compared to a BSc.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 9:49 am
Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:49 am to
A Bachelor of Arts (BA) in Physics offers a flexible, interdisciplinary approach to studying the physical universe, combining foundational physics with liberal arts education. It is ideal for students pursuing careers in education, science policy, patent law, technical writing, or double-majoring, offering more elective space than a Bachelor of Science
Posted by mikie421
continental shelf
Member since Nov 2008
844 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:51 am to
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Study in math, physics, chemistry, etc., is critical for America's future competitiveness in this technological world. If students are not studying the core sciences, we need to work on promoting interest in the fields, not eliminating the programs.


A BA in any science is stupid. Why would you get a BA in Physics vs a BS??? Why would it even exist in the first place?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28476 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:51 am to
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They are eliminating the BA version, which is a far less rigorous and arguably useless compared to a BSc.

That is not addressed in the OP. If correct, then the presentation should be on the elimination of duplicate majors with some context, and not simply characterizing math and science degrees as "worthless degrees."
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5151 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:52 am to
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Study in math, physics, chemistry, etc., is critical for America's future competitiveness in this technological world. If students are not studying the core sciences, we need to work on promoting interest in the fields, not eliminating the programs


So more education is needed on what education is critical?

Got it.
Posted by mikie421
continental shelf
Member since Nov 2008
844 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:52 am to
So a watered down degree for those who can’t hack it?

I found the problem.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 9:53 am
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20544 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:52 am to
quote:

Good thing we are eliminating all study of chemistry, classics, French language, horticulture, math, physics, aviation, geology, and life sciences.

I guess we can only study welding and plumbing. Meanwhile, in China

First of all they are eliminating a Bachelor of "Arts" in chemistry and physics. I'd be willing to bet the Bachelor of Science is staying.
Meanwhile in China it' STEM degrees they are pursuing.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35382 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:53 am to
Yea, these are bullshite degrees. They are basically math or physics degrees for people who don't want to work in math or physics, like someone who wants to be a teacher.

Posted by uziyourillusion
Member since Dec 2024
650 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:53 am to
I sure hope no one is claiming physics is “useless”.
Posted by TechBullDawg
Member since May 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:53 am to
Difference in dance and dance studies?

One guy dancing for his degree and the guy in the wheelchair studying him?
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
7458 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:54 am to
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Study in math, physics, chemistry, etc., is critical for America's future competitiveness


I think the problem is these are BAs in science fields, AND there is no demand for them. It does not equate at all to cutting out the study of these subjects.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 9:56 am
Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
6787 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 9:55 am to
Someone suggested that universities should be cosigner on all student loans.

This would eliminate a lot of these useless degrees.
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