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“One Nation Under God” Sounds Archaic, But It’s Actually From the Eisenhower Era
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:07 am
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:07 am
Yes, there is certainly a thread of faith woven into American culture and political language, primarily because the founding fathers happened to be religious (and Protestant, at that).
However, the founding of America itself was deliberately not religiously grounded. At the same time, the political framework was intentionally secular:
-The U.S. Constitution contains no reference to God (unusual for the time).
-The First Amendment prohibits establishment of an official religion.
-Key founders like Thomas Jefferson and James Madison strongly supported church–state separation.
-The Treaty of Tripoli explicitly states the U.S. is “not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion”.
So while Americans were often religious, the system they built was not based on a single faith tradition.
Eisenhower added “Under God” to distinguish us from the soviets during the Cold War.
I just thought this was an interesting fact.
However, the founding of America itself was deliberately not religiously grounded. At the same time, the political framework was intentionally secular:
-The U.S. Constitution contains no reference to God (unusual for the time).
-The First Amendment prohibits establishment of an official religion.
-Key founders like Thomas Jefferson and James Madison strongly supported church–state separation.
-The Treaty of Tripoli explicitly states the U.S. is “not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion”.
So while Americans were often religious, the system they built was not based on a single faith tradition.
Eisenhower added “Under God” to distinguish us from the soviets during the Cold War.
I just thought this was an interesting fact.
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:10 am to RFK
Thank you for a reminder of our 8th grade history lesson
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:13 am to RFK
The Pledge of Allegiance is a socialist creed written by a man who rejected capitalism.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:15 am to SCLibertarian
Well I don’t think we recite it in schools anymore, so it doesn’t really matter.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:17 am to RFK
Those dirty Godless commies.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:18 am to RFK
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So while Americans were often religious, the system they built was not based on a single faith tradition.
This is because they were a mix of protestants. During the founding less than 40k Catholics and less than 3k jews.
The founders thought the states would always be majority protestant. 9 of the 13 state constitutions required a declaration of Christian faith to serve in government. The state constitutions had a form of "I profess Jesus Christ as my Lord and savior" in them.
They didn't want to claim one protestant religion over another. One of their few mistakes was not foreseeing their creation would have such success that it would bring parasites from all over the world to it.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:22 am to RFK
Seems like that Bill of Rights thingy is firm on the concept that .Gov doesn’t establish freedoms, they are God Given, and the Bill defines what .Gov cannot infringe upon.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:24 am to OccamsStubble
Yes, God as in a superior being that ordains natural rights upon everyone. Not a “Christian” god.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:30 am to RFK
And now that God is the stock market. And this nation is dying accordingly.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:31 am to RFK
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Yes, God as in a superior being that ordains natural rights upon everyone. Not a “Christian” god.
The he OP stated this:
However, the founding of America itself was deliberately not religiously grounded
My post refuted it. Hard to say America wasn’t religiously grounded when the very rights that make America America are given by God, and not man.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 6:33 am to RFK
I have less of an issue with "under God" than I do with "one nation"
ETA: "Indivisible" is hand in hand with one nation
ETA: "Indivisible" is hand in hand with one nation
This post was edited on 4/21/26 at 6:35 am
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:11 am to RFK
The federal government was sadly founded as a secular government without committing allegiance to Jesus Christ as King of kings. Many Christians had a problem with that when the Constitution was created.
All nations and rulers have the obligation to submit to Jesus, since all power and authority has been given to Him.
All nations and rulers have the obligation to submit to Jesus, since all power and authority has been given to Him.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:26 am to RFK
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God as in a superior being that ordains natural rights upon everyone. Not a “Christian” god.
No, they were very much talking about Christian God. In fact, all mentions of God are references to Christian God. Know how I know? Because they didn't believe in any other god, so they wouldn't have referenced a non-Christian god.
There. There's your daily arse-whipping. Have a great day.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:47 am to RFK
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The U.S. Constitution contains no reference to God (unusual for the time).
No but the Declaration of Independence does by recognizing our rights endowed to us by our Creator.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:50 am to blueboy
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No, they were very much talking about Christian God. In fact, all mentions of God are references to Christian God.
Know how I know? Because they didn't believe in any other god, so they wouldn't have referenced a non-Christian god.
There. There's your daily arse-whipping. Have a great day.
Actually, most of the founding fathers had coexist bumper stickers on their Subaru's.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:51 am to RFK
Yes, the reason the founders avoided religion is because the colonies had a lot of friction between different churches. To the point that they lived in separate towns and did not do business with each other. That friction did not originate with settling in America. They didn't get along in England and came to America from different villages in England.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:51 am to OccamsStubble
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However, the founding of America itself was deliberately not religiously grounded
My post refuted it. Hard to say America wasn’t religiously grounded when the very rights that make America America are given by God, and not man
What God did they cite?
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:54 am to UtahCajun
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However, the founding of America itself was deliberately not religiously grounded
My post refuted it. Hard to say America wasn’t religiously grounded when the very rights that make America America are given by God, and not man
What God did they cite?
I reckon the one they believed in at the time.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 7:56 am to RFK
Our law and culture are absolutely based on Christian values and morals.
That is different from "religion".
That is different from "religion".
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:00 am to RFK
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Eisenhower added “Under God” to distinguish us from the soviets during the Cold War.
After a campaign to do so led by the Knights of Columbus.
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