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re: “One Nation Under God” Sounds Archaic, But It’s Actually From the Eisenhower Era

Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:02 am to
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49985 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:02 am to
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RFK


Nobody's going to stop you from worshipping the Brazilian tree frog, fool. Chill out.
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
2930 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 8:06 am to
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The Pledge of Allegiance is a socialist creed written by a man who rejected capitalism.


Which makes sense.

The whole ritual of having young children stand and recite a "pledge" in unison to a symbol always seem very Nazi or communistic, like the films we were shown of how things were in Nazi Germany, Russia, China and North Korea.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11925 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 9:10 am to
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Yes, God as in a superior being that ordains natural rights upon everyone. Not a “Christian” god.


So then what is your problem with the statement "one nation under God?"

Have you ever made a thread that wasn't shitty?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115434 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 9:22 am to
So much ignorance, so little time.

- the Constitution us the organizational document for the national government. Plenty or references to God/The Creator in the Declaration of Independence and state constitutions of the period.

- 1st Amendment prohibited a national religion. State and local governments collected taxes to support churches until the 1830s.

- Jefferson and Madison were against state interference with religion, not necessarily vice versa.

- treaty was with Muslims and that statement was in there for appearances. Even if the official position of the government at the time, subsequent actions have negated its effect ( see, Treaty of Tripoli & the confusion surrounding it explained in four poi – AmericanMinute.com-William J. Federer LINK )
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
6931 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 10:38 am to
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-The Treaty of Tripoli explicitly states the U.S. is “not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion”.
Except it doesn't say that. The actual document written in Arabic doesn't have these words.

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the founding of America itself was deliberately not religiously grounded. At the same time, the political framework was intentionally secular:
Couldn't be further from the truth. Separation of church and state just means we weren't meant to be a theocracy. Our government and society was created on Christianity. It's not even a debate if you know American history.
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