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Nicotine for Alzheimer's... What says the OT?

Posted on 4/10/26 at 1:11 pm
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 1:11 pm
One of my family members has been dealing with Alzheimer's for years, early onset. As it does it progressively became worse and worse and now he at times forgets how to get around his own house.

At a recent doctor's visit, a new doctor recommended he use nicotine pouches or gum. Since starting he has shown a pretty great improvement. Nothing like a cure or anything, but his QoL has certainly improved.

There seem to be a few studies in progress on this and a few already complete, with mixed results. Cognitive benefits of nicotine use have been a debate topic for a long time, but the main negative has been delivery mechanisms aren't really good for you. Will Zyns, Velo, etc become a norm for health purposes, or do you think there will be some long term drawback to using those like there is with more traditional tobacco products?
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 1:12 pm to
Try creatine too.

There are recent studies that creatine may help with energy in the brain. I'd suggest taking more than the recommended 5g a day. Have him take at least 10g.
This post was edited on 4/10/26 at 1:23 pm
Posted by slidingstop
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 1:13 pm to
Can't hurt.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 1:18 pm to
I chew and take creatine,I’m sharp as a tack.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 1:21 pm to
If I was diagnosed with dementia and they told me the only way to cure it was to become an Alabama fan…..

Posted by WaydownSouth
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Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 1:28 pm to
Have him blast a little Tren. Supposedly low T is associated with Alzheimers
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 1:53 pm to
I preface by saying I have zero medical background, but I can’t help but question medical professionals motives when it comes to medication and treatment. Would they rather make a buck and subscribe some expensive medication over a cheaper alternative that would do the trick?

Seems this doctor cares more about treating his patients than promoting XYZ drug. I’d continue the nicotine especially at this stage of life. You mention QoL, nicotine can increase this as well even for a healthy person
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
2508 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 2:00 pm to
Convinced that there is a connection after having seen a relative get nagged for years to quit chewing tobacco (Levi Garrett).

Anyway, after chewing for decades he finally gives in to the nagging and quits.

Some months later Alzheimers comes on strong. We talking going from fully functional and sharp, to needing full time care in a very short amount of time.

Never thought about it much until these studies started coming out years later about cognitive benefits of nicotine and made that connection.

I'm convinced that there might have been some prophylactic effect of the nicotine, or, after so many years on it, his brain was so reliant on it where cutting it out was detrimental.

In any event, often wonder if he'd have been better off if not being nagged about the chew and left alone on the basis of the old adage "if it's working, don't frick with it."
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
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Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

I preface by saying I have zero medical background, but I can’t help but question medical professionals motives when it comes to medication and treatment. Would they rather make a buck and subscribe some expensive medication over a cheaper alternative that would do the trick?



The medical community really lost a good bit of credibility over the last several years.

My $.02 on the nicotine subject is that pure nicotine is no more caustic to your health than caffeine. And I seem to read articles periodically pointing to nicotine health benefits.
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 2:03 pm to
I'd throw everything at that fricking evil disease. Nicotine, shrooms, weed, TRT. I'd drink camel piss if a study came out showing it to combat Alzheimers and dementia.
Posted by Crow Pie
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 2:11 pm to
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My $.02 on the nicotine subject is that pure nicotine is no more caustic to your health than caffeine. And I seem to read articles periodically pointing to nicotine health benefits.
Probably but I have had to quit a bunch of stuff over the years including caffeine and Nicotine was the hardest thing I ever quit. Took years.

That being said, I would and will take anything to prevent a poor ending but the camel piss would have to be on the rocks.
This post was edited on 4/10/26 at 2:13 pm
Posted by back9Tiger
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 2:19 pm to
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Probably but I have had to quit a bunch of stuff over the years including caffeine and Nicotine was the hardest thing I ever quit. Took years.


It's one of the most addictive substances from what i've read.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 2:23 pm to
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or do you think there will be some long term drawback to using those like there is with more traditional tobacco products?


There is no long term with alzheimers. You're dealing with the now. Whatever works to relieve immediate symptoms. If it shortens lifespan, that's a feature, not a bug, tbh. QoL only gets worse and you should do what you can to forestall it without worrying much about long term consequences.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 2:35 pm to
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There is no long term with alzheimers. You're dealing with the now. Whatever works to relieve immediate symptoms. If it shortens lifespan, that's a feature, not a bug, tbh. QoL only gets worse and you should do what you can to forestall it without worrying much about long term consequences


Of course, in that situation do what you want and what works.

I probably worded that part poorly, but I mean more "should many/most of us be looking at this as something we use in moderation?". Without the drawbacks of what smoking does to your lungs or some of the additives in tobacco, could these new delivery methods almost be a health supplement? And the long term comment was about how they will impact us if we do start using them long term. I think there might be something to the fact that you can just swallow your spit with these vs spitting tobacco out, in my extremely unprofessional opinion.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8331 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 2:37 pm to
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Convinced that there is a connection after having seen a relative get nagged for years to quit chewing tobacco (Levi Garrett).



Also, having Grown up in rural areas and regularly spending time with people who partake now, you don't see people getting mouth cancer from it all that often. For a few years there they were telling people you'd lose your jaw eventually or something.... Didnt see that ever in the mountains and don't see it down here either.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105058 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 3:10 pm to
Well nicotine affects the cardiovascular system, so it's pick your poison, I guess. Heart disease vs dementia. Having seen both up close, neither is something to look forward to, but all else being equal I guess I'd rather die with my mind intact.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56690 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 3:58 pm to
My mother developed Alzheimer’s at a tragically young age, and she basically smoked her entire adult life outside of pregnancy. Of course, she stopped once she finally had to be put in a memory care facility. Reckon I can slip her a zyn.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4874 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 7:58 pm to
“you don’t see people getting mouth cancer from it all that often”

Guy I went to high school became a oncologist.I asked him about oral tobacco and mouth cancer.He told me he had never seen mouth cancer from leaf tobacco,all the ones he had seen were from snuff type products such as Skoal.
Leaf tobacco such as Red Man,Levi Garrett,has a lot of sugar added so it does cause cavities.
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
2674 posts
Posted on 4/10/26 at 8:29 pm to
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At a recent doctor's visit, a new doctor recommended he use nicotine pouches or gum. Since starting he has shown a pretty great improvement. Nothing like a cure or anything, but his QoL has certainly improved.


This is 100% correct.

Nicotinic receptors play a major role in preventing Alzheimer’s.

Cigarette smokers have a significantly lower incidence of Alzheimer’s.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/10/26 at 9:02 pm to
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I chew and take creatine,I’m sharp as a tack.


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