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Tucker - Trump's speech announced the end of the global American empire.

Posted on 4/3/26 at 6:43 am
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 6:43 am
Hyperbole or nah?
quote:

TUCKER CARLSON: What’s happening in Iran is the end of the American Empire as we understand it. And that’s sad. Boohoo—empire’s dying.

But it’s not the end of the United States. It’s not the end of our influence on other nations—hopefully a positive influence. It’s not the end of our economy.

It’s the beginning of a very rough time in our economy, of course, but it’s hardly the end of it. What we’ve been doing for likely your lifetime, if you’re under 80, is—well, it’s not working anymore. It hasn’t actually helped the United States long-term.

Your grandkids, at this point, don’t have the promise of a better life than you had. So it’s not actually a successful experiment, and now it’s ending because we’ve reached the limits of our demonstrated power.

We can’t open the Straits of Hormuz. The president of the United States said that last night—someone else do it. So we’re done.

That’s okay. It was always going to end. Hopefully, we can get out without a nuclear exchange. But now it is ending.

And there’s going to be a lot of suffering and sadness as a result of that end. But there will also be—there is—an awful lot of promise. Promise that the United States can act in its own interest, that it can be reasonable, that it will not be governed by deranged people seized by hubris or get way out over their skis and get a ton of people killed. You don’t have to occupy countries you’ve never been to, and can’t identify on a map.

Real Clear Politics.
This post was edited on 4/3/26 at 6:46 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 6:51 am to
A bit of hyperbole in both directions.

- Our experiment isn't ending and the bleak outlook for our grandkids is overblown.

- I have zero faith that, even if Iran goes completely into the shitter, we won't repeat the same actions in another 20 years. Especially if we have a cult of personality leading the charge.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 6:53 am to
There are kernels of truth scattered through all of that.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:06 am to
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Especially if we have a cult of personality leading the charge.


bullshite is so tiresome
Posted by bird35
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:06 am to
Good. I don’t want a Global empire.

I just want to run the Western Hemisphere. The Eastern Hemisphere is a messy and war mongering place.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
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Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:06 am to
quote:

And there’s going to be a lot of suffering and sadness as a result of that end. But there will also be—there is—an awful lot of promise. Promise that the United States can act in its own interest, that it can be reasonable, that it will not be governed by deranged people seized by hubris or get way out over their skis and get a ton of people killed. You don’t have to occupy countries you’ve never been to, and can’t identify on a map.


The underlined is my prayer for our future - a future I'll not see - I pray for my great-grandsons.
Posted by TheOcean
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:12 am to
tucker;drdw
This post was edited on 4/3/26 at 7:12 am
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:14 am to
quote:

Hopefully, we can get out without a nuclear exchange.


This is hyperbole.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:15 am to
We could open up the Straight, IMHO.

It would just take a commitment that Trump doesn't want to use, and I'm not upset about that. He apparently thought he could accomplish this with half measures and finds himself in a terrible situation where he can't come close to winning without doing something worse than losing in embarrassing fashion (escalating to forever war).

I think Tucker is wrong
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:15 am to
Oh yeh, Quck looking angry as usual
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:15 am to
It's my opinion that Tucker has lost the plot.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:19 am to
quote:

Especially if we have a cult of personality leading the charge.


bullshite is so tiresome


But oh so true.
Posted by AUCom96
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:20 am to
I thought he laid out his point well. Whether it's 100% accurate? Hard to say. I do think America is diminishing relatively rapidly and that's not on Trump. We sold out our industrial might for stock prices, giving rise to China who has surpassed us in many respects. We blew up massive debt with war and corruption. We lost control of our culture and opened our borders to organized crime, disease and the third world. We ignore our own problems while we CONTINUE to start new wars abroad.

That won't bear the weight of "empire" and I don't think that's entirely a bad thing, as Carlson also pointed out. The question is how to turn our government back to "we the people" instead of a machine up for bid to the deepest pockets.
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:24 am to
quote:

But oh so true.


You didn't have "MAGA cheers on regime change in the ME!!!!" on your bingo card?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:24 am to
quote:

It's my opinion that Tucker has lost the plot.


I would assert he actually seems to be sort of turning into it here.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8147 posts
Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:26 am to
Trump specifically said in all 3 of his campaigns no more wars in the Middle East.

But hey, I'm sure he's gotten a congrats call from W.
Posted by Fanatics
Member since Nov 2025
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:27 am to
This is just as much about payments as other geopolitical reasons. Both Iran and Venezuela were selling oil outside the petrodollar to China. Settlement in yuan circumventing US sanctions. Crypto settlement is coming.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:29 am to
quote:

Both Iran and Venezuela were selling oil outside the petrodollar to China.

Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:30 am to
quote:

We could open up the Straight, IMHO.

There is no doubt that we could.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 4/3/26 at 7:31 am to
quote:

the bleak outlook for our grandkids is overblown.


Not in the slightest. The world is headed down the shitter, Trump is just slowing it down slightly. It's inevitable.
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