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11x increase in shingles after shingles shot for those 65 & older.

Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:45 am
Posted by Crimson Wraith
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:45 am
Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:51 am to
Hey bro, take this medicine so you don’t get sick but the medicine will increase the likelihood of getting sick times 11.

Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
15897 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:53 am to
The company wants a return on all that money spent on research and development.
Posted by Jetstream 2000
Member since Jan 2021
272 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 8:55 am to
Took shingles vaccine and after second shot had double vision for a month. Doctors couldn’t explain it and had never seen that. I’m not taking that anymore.
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
6405 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:00 am to
Now do flu shots!
Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
4024 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:02 am to
People need to quit taking shots they don’t really need.
Posted by gmac8604
Green Bay, WI
Member since Jun 2012
1360 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:11 am to
Its a feature, not a bug.
Posted by WestSideTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
5170 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:12 am to
Shingles are no joke. Know the facts.



Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:17 am to
What’s the absolute risk reduction?

I looked it up.

quote:

Shingrix provides an absolute risk reduction of approximately 8.4 per 1,000 person-years in adults aged 70 years and older, translating to preventing roughly 8-9 cases of shingles per 1,000 people vaccinated annually.


If 1,000 people are vaccinated, that group of people has 8 cases of shingles less than 1,000 people who aren’t vaccinated.
This post was edited on 3/29/26 at 9:19 am
Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5400 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:22 am to
quote:

11x increase in shingles after shingles shot for those 65 & older.


Since we know that the covid vaccine damages the immune system, all studies need to be broken into covid vaccinated and non-vaccinated groups to make any sense. As someone that does science for a living, I hate stupid science that does not account for known variables.


Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44238 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:26 am to
Yo don’t take it to keep yourself from getting shingles, you take it so others don’t get shingles.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:29 am to
11x increase in the 21 days following first dose to accomplish a reduction of 1 case of shingles per 125 patients vaccinated.

Imma pass.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11779 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:47 am to
If I were explaining it to a patient, it’d probably sound something like “There’s a small chance of a mild shingles episode shortly after the first dose, but over time the vaccine lowers your overall risk -and shingles in older adults can be pretty miserable when it hits hard”.

And there’s some emerging data that shingles vaccination may be associated with lower dementia risk too, which is interesting (still being worked out, but not nothing).

Seems like a reasonable thing to discuss openly rather than just framing it one way or the other. Where OP goes wrong is it lacks context and it ends up being misleading.
This post was edited on 3/29/26 at 9:48 am
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7216 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:51 am to
quote:

Took shingles vaccine and after second shot had double vision for a month. Doctors couldn’t explain it and had never seen that. I’m not taking that anymore.

How many shots are you supposed to take? I hear vaccine and figured it was a one time thing like the measles vaccine. Though my mindset is pre-covid and not a bunch of boosters. And never saw the flu "vaccine" as a real vaccine.

One of my grandma's got it years ago and really messed her up, so hope there is something that works eventually. Though me personally, keep it to myself, believe she had it triggered by getting the COVID shot.
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
2375 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:52 am to
quote:

People need to quit taking shots they don’t really need.


They love it and they conditioned to love it now.

That’s all they talk about now is what shots they got and what shots they due for.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
54555 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:55 am to
quote:

11x increase in the 21 days following first dose

Sounds like a lot, but when you consider that X is almost 0, it's fairly inconsequential.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128043 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:57 am to
quote:

Sounds like a lot, but when you consider that X is almost 0, it's fairly inconsequential.


So is an 8 case reduction per 1000 vaccinations.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7216 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Since we know that the covid vaccine damages the immune system, all studies need to be broken into covid vaccinated and non-vaccinated groups to make any sense. As someone that does science for a living, I hate stupid science that does not account for known variables.


I agree. As I said in another post, one of my grandma's got it and she's not been the same since. It's been 3-4 or so years now. As another poster said, shingles is no joke. I hated seeing her go thru what she did early on. She didn't have the shingles vaccine, but got the COVID one.

So hopefully there's something to help prevent it from breaking out.

I think people taking the same attitude with this as the COVID "vaccine" may regret not taking shingles seriously.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
54555 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 10:00 am to
quote:

So is an 8 case reduction per 1000 vaccinations.

Eight out of how many? Not how many vaccinations; how many cases of shingles would there have been among those thousand had it not been for the vaccination?
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
13882 posts
Posted on 3/29/26 at 10:01 am to
Took my first shot in January. I'm 51. Arm hurt like a bitch for a week and I got flu-like symptoms for days 2 and 3. After that all good. I'm supposed to get a 2nd final shot in a couple months.
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