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Is Trump reshaping our entire strategic alliance to South America and the indo pacific?

Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:54 am
Posted by td01241
Savannah
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:54 am
This has basically gone under the radar mostly since Iran has started but SOCOM has essentially opened up another front in what you might consider all part of the same war, albeit for different reasons.

Our marines helped Ecuador take out some of their cartel members. Argentina and El Salvador are already really strong allies to us who we can help build up militarily. Bolivia and Chile are both moving in this direction. Venezuela can be brought back into the fold over time slowly with its vast resources.

Essentially what im asking is do you think Trump has known for a long time Europe is a dying civilization and has been laying the groundwork to move our alliances and partnerships into our own hemisphere and the pacific which we are just now seeing the effects of?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:57 am to
I hope so. That’s what everything is about, isn’t it?

We’re repositioning to be able to handle the coming tech race and everything it brings. China has an advantage. They have many inorganic advantages.

We’re going to address those, and shed some of the chains liberals have shackled us with.

At least I hope that’s what the plan is.
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 11:04 am
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:00 am to
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Essentially what im asking is do you think Trump has known for a long time Europe is a dying civilization

What I think is that we are part of the same civilization as Europe and that it would be a grave mistake for white people to come to believe that we aren’t part of the same civilization.

It’s troubling that so many people don’t see Europe as worth saving.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:02 am to
It looks like it...Trump posted this but is it about Cuba or Venezuela?
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This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 10:04 am
Posted by DamnGood86
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:02 am to
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It’s troubling that so many people don’t see Europe as worth saving.

It's not easy to save someone, who doesn't want to be saved.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:02 am to
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What I think is that we are part of the same civilization as Europe and that it would be a grave mistake for white people to come to believe that we aren’t part of the same civilization.


Won't be that way for much longer. Time to get ahead of the problem.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:03 am to
I agree this is about China and boxing them in. Europe does nothing to help with that. Bringing as much of our hemisphere on side as possible along with Japan SK and the other islands around it, does.

I just dont think its a coincidence many of these nations slowly but surely one by one are beginning to clean their countries up, take it the cartels, adopt better monetary policy, etc.

I also dont think its a coincidence we just used our military for a ground operation in south america for the first time in history to help Ecuador on this path like I said in the OP.
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 10:05 am
Posted by Purple Spoon
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:03 am to
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It's not easy to save someone, who doesn't want to be saved
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It's not easy to save someone, who doesn't want to be saved
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It's not easy to save someone, who doesn't want to be saved
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It's not easy to save someone, who doesn't want to be saved
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:04 am to
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Europe is a dying civilization


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:05 am to
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Trump has known for a long time Europe is a dying civilization

Overblown.

They're still rich and we need rich countries to buy our expensive products.

It will take multiple decades for SA to get to an economic place to replace the EU.

There is also no reason why this is a zero sum game and we can't make moves to help SA develop while also not burning down our relationships/alliances with Europe. Doing both would be much better long-term.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
473007 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:06 am to
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I agree this is about China and boxing them in. Europe does nothing to help with that.


Alienating Europe so they get closer to China strengthens China.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
22857 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:07 am to
The totality of all Trump's actions is reordering the entire global system. Everything from trade, economics, and military.
Many people get so caught up in the day to day "Breaking News" and bullshite propaganda they lose focus on the bigger picture. IMHO
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:08 am to
I agree with you.

Thats why this OP is about the bigger picture
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
21547 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:11 am to
Yes. And I think it’s more likely than not that Russia moves over to the US eventually. It will be the US, Latin America, Eastern European countries, Japan, a few countries in the Middle East. Western Europe is likely lost. They don’t have the political will or the means to reverse course.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:13 am to
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Alienating Europe so they get closer to China strengthens China.


They bear no similarity in provenance to China. If they go there it is out of desperation or for spite towards us. They will spite us for 2 1/2 years with the hope of getting a like minded US president in 2028.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
1969 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:16 am to
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I just dont think its a coincidence many of these nations slowly but surely one by one are beginning to clean their countries up, take it the cartels, adopt better monetary policy, etc.


We’ll see if they’re capable of withstanding negative influence for the long term. I do agree with you that the long term goal is to limit Chinese influence and dependency by western nations. A stabilized SA is a major economic threat to the Chinese.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
22474 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:19 am to
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It’s troubling that so many people don’t see Europe as worth saving.

I don’t view it that way, but I do think we need to fix our own problems first.

The reality is the source of many of our problems here is the same as they are over there so in purging them domestically we will build the blueprint for addressing it elsewhere.

But we need to be less squeamish about being honest about the issues all around us and what needs to be done to fix things.

Were calling out the Brits for being occupied by Islamic invaders while we tiptoe past entire parts of our states for fear of being called names for wanting law and order.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70058 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:19 am to
Greenland, Venezuela, Cuba, Canada, Israel, looking forward to many more beautiful stars added to our grand ol’ flag.
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 10:23 am
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
29473 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:24 am to
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quote:
It’s troubling that so many people don’t see Europe as worth saving.

I don’t view it that way, but I do think we need to fix our own problems first.

The reality is the source of many of our problems here is the same as they are over there so in purging them domestically we will build the blueprint for addressing it elsewhere.

But we need to be less squeamish about being honest about the issues all around us and what needs to be done to fix things.

Were calling out the Brits for being occupied by Islamic invaders while we tiptoe past entire parts of our states for fear of being called names for wanting law and order.


I agree with everything you say here 100% but I also think its interwoven inextricably from what im talking about in the OP. To try to be more succinct, I do not think we can accomplish what youre proposing to the degree wed likely be satisfied with without first making the moves I laid out in the OP.

Idk if that makes any sense because I may have not explained what I mean very well
Posted by Elvis Parsley
Red Stuck
Member since Jan 2004
686 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:26 am to
quote:

It’s troubling that so many people don’t see Europe as worth saving.


It absolutely worth saving but they have to want to save themselves. We can't do it for them
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