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Misplaced blame: catching is our problem more than pitching
Posted on 3/14/26 at 9:47 am
Posted on 3/14/26 at 9:47 am
IYKYK
at least the Vandy guys sucks just as much and let us back in the game late.
at least the Vandy guys sucks just as much and let us back in the game late.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 9:48 am to Meauxjeaux
Eh it’s bad, but Evans can’t be off the hook like that. Towards the later part of the game Arrambide was pretty bad. But early on those pitches weren’t even close.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 9:48 am to Meauxjeaux
Arrambide walked all those guys and gave up those hits?
Posted on 3/14/26 at 9:55 am to Meauxjeaux
Evan’s was bad. Early part of the game was like bad and badder.
Williams got hosed on two batters that should have been out.
Arambide is like the poster child for modern catching. Can’t catch, can’t frame, can’t block. Balls flying all over the place tipping off the edge of the mitt and runners moving around the bags and scoring at will.
So late in the game, Guidry is having to compensate, and when you have to compensate, you lose your edge and give up bombs
Williams got hosed on two batters that should have been out.
Arambide is like the poster child for modern catching. Can’t catch, can’t frame, can’t block. Balls flying all over the place tipping off the edge of the mitt and runners moving around the bags and scoring at will.
So late in the game, Guidry is having to compensate, and when you have to compensate, you lose your edge and give up bombs
Posted on 3/14/26 at 9:55 am to josh336
It's like in any sport where the real mistake happens (Evans bad outing) but everyone blames the couple small mistakes as to why they lost. 15 free bases or whatever it was was why not a few missed balls.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 10:18 am to Meauxjeaux
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catching is our problem more than pitching
We gave them 12 free runners by way of walk or HBP. Of those 12, 7 of them scored.
Furthermore, 10 of the 12 free runners drew their walk from Evans and Williams and all 7 that scored were walked by either one of them.
2 walks also pushed in a score and 1 of those scores was another walked batter. Both also by Evans/Williams.
The only other two walks were by Noot but neither scored.
I blame pitching in this game, specifically Evans and Williams. Not catching. Yes, we have an issue there.... but this game specifically was lost due to pitching.
If you were to simply remove the two walks that pushed in the guy on third, we would've won. Yes hindsight, but again, my point stands.
And I'm not downing Evans and Williams. Like batters get hot or cold; pitchers have good and bad outings. The next game they throw, they may be lights out.
They just weren't on their game tonight.
This post was edited on 3/14/26 at 10:29 am
Posted on 3/14/26 at 10:20 am to Meauxjeaux
Nah, the pitching failed them last night. I do agree the catchers need to be better but the real determining factor last night was pitching.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 10:22 am to des4271
I will never understand a catcher on his knees when runners are on base
Posted on 3/14/26 at 10:25 am to Meauxjeaux
Pitching and defense are both horrible right now. Between the walks/wild pitches/past balls, you can’t overcome these every single night and expect to win.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 10:27 am to southern686
To be fair, I’m putting forth that catching more of a problem than pitching, not instead of pitching.
Both were horrendous last night until Cowan.
My premise is, when you have shite catching, pitchers have to adjust to that, and when they have to adjust to it, they lose their edge.
Then when a pitcher is off, it just compounds. As we saw last night.
I think our pitching will be fine. I’ve got serious concerns about our catching.
Both were horrendous last night until Cowan.
My premise is, when you have shite catching, pitchers have to adjust to that, and when they have to adjust to it, they lose their edge.
Then when a pitcher is off, it just compounds. As we saw last night.
I think our pitching will be fine. I’ve got serious concerns about our catching.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 10:31 am to Meauxjeaux
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So late in the game, Guidry is having to compensate, and when you have to compensate, you lose your edge and give up bombs
Totally agree here. Without the passed ball LSU wins imo. Tying run to 3rd after the sac fly to cut it into 1 forced him to compensate and it brought his breaking ball up.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 10:36 am to Meauxjeaux
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To be fair, I’m putting forth that catching more of a problem than pitching, not instead of pitching.
I totally agree there, overall yes. I thought you were implying catching was to blame specifically for the L in this game.
Our catching is consistently bad at least for the standard of our program. Where as pitching overall (meaning all outings/pitchers included) is not terrible at all. Out pitching is actually pretty good. We just had a terrible outing by two guys last night that I think lost us the game.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 10:44 am to southern686
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e gave them 12 free runners by way of walk or HBP. Of those 12, 7 of them scored.
Furthermore, 10 of the 12 free runners drew their walk from Evans and Williams and all 7 that scored were walked by either one of them.
2 walks also pushed in a score and 1 of those scores was another walked batter. Both also by Evans/Williams.
The only other two walks were by Noot but neither scored.
I blame pitching in this game, specifically Evans and Williams. Not catching. Yes, we have an issue there.... but this game specifically was lost due to pitching.
If you were to simply remove the two walks that pushed in the guy on third, we would've won. Yes hindsight, but again, my point stands.
And I'm not downing Evans and Williams. Like batters get hot or cold; pitchers have good and bad outings. The next game they throw, they may be lights out.
They just weren't on their game tonight.
This is correct! you can blame anything else you want... but this is the truth.
Evans was bad.
Williams was bad, (but that UMP wouldn't call a strike at the bottom for williams)
Guidry gave up the game winning bomb, and the 2 previous hits that put those guys aboard so he deserves some blame.... but very little in comparison. over 10 walks in 4 innings... that lost you the game. simple.
Posted on 3/14/26 at 10:53 am to Meauxjeaux
Defensively catching is a concern but BB is a major concern..Its equal to a hit bro
Posted on 3/14/26 at 11:19 am to Keith13
quote:I know some pitchers who threw some minor league ball. He also made comment to the suspect catching performance we’re currently seeing.
I will never understand a catcher on his knees when runners are on base
Posted on 3/14/26 at 11:47 am to Meauxjeaux
Small observation, but why doesnt either catcher hold thier glove up to give the pitcher a target? Is that some technique I dont know about?
Watch them tonight. Before the pitch they will flash the glove in the zone facing the pitcher. As the pitcher winds up they move the glove all over the zone.
Hell both of them usually have the glove facing down towards the dirt when the ball is released and then they reach up to snag it. Its gotta be tough to snag a ball when your glove is facing the dirt at the release of the pitch.
Wouldn't it make more sense to hold the glove facing the pitcher the entire windup?
Watch them tonight. Before the pitch they will flash the glove in the zone facing the pitcher. As the pitcher winds up they move the glove all over the zone.
Hell both of them usually have the glove facing down towards the dirt when the ball is released and then they reach up to snag it. Its gotta be tough to snag a ball when your glove is facing the dirt at the release of the pitch.
Wouldn't it make more sense to hold the glove facing the pitcher the entire windup?
Posted on 3/14/26 at 11:52 am to Meauxjeaux
And Arambide was the top catcher in the country out of high school? He was one that most people were surprised that he even chose to come to college and he can’t even do little league shite right behind the plate much less skipping college to go straight to pros smh.
This post was edited on 3/14/26 at 11:54 am
Posted on 3/14/26 at 12:10 pm to LSUminati
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Totally agree here. Without the passed ball LSU wins imo. Tying run to 3rd after the sac fly to cut it into 1 forced him to compensate and it brought his breaking ball up.
Hard to trust yourself to throw a low curve when your catcher just struggled to handle one. Instinctively you try to bring it up a touch to help him out and Guidry just hung it.
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