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How Star Trek Was Destroyed By Hollywood, The Full History Of Its Ruination

Posted on 2/18/26 at 9:03 pm
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 2/18/26 at 9:03 pm
Giant Freaking Robot

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Star Trek has never been at a lower point. The franchise’s current batch of shows receives almost no ratings, and the brand’s total mismanagement has been so bad that it’s driven away existing Trekkies while failing to attract any new viewers.

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What happened? What went wrong? How did we end up in this Star Trek hellscape? To find the answer, we have to look into the past.

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Brian Fuller And The Rise Of Alex Kurtzman

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Fuller worked on the show for 9 months. His tenure was marked by missed deadlines and ever-expanding budgets. Paramount clashed with him over his desire to reboot Star Trek into a Game of Thrones series. The company wanted its brand to stick with the traditions that made Star Trek work, and Fuller wanted to warp it into something entirely different. After these struggles and amid much controversy, Fuller essentially left the production while maintaining credit for the show.

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Star Trek: Discovery Launches And Is Hated

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Reports of Discovery’s ratings were vague and unreliable. Most indications were that after an initially strong debut, people began abandoning the show. Paramount and their new best friend, Alex Kurtzman, took note and tried making big changes for season 2. They brought in Anson Mount to play Christopher Pike, and Mount was fantastic. Unfortunately, the rest of the show was still the show it was always designed to be. Adding one good character to a terrible show cannot save it.

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Paramount Activates Quarantine Protocols For Star Trek: Discovery

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Stuck with a show no one liked, Paramount did the only thing they could do besides cancel it: They quarantined the entire series, separating it from the rest of Star Trek. They did that by time-jumping Star Trek: Discovery so far into the future that nothing it did could have any further impact on the franchise.

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Star Trek Becomes A Zombie Franchise Thanks To Starfleet Academy

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A disaster on the scale of Star Trek: Section 31 should have been the end of Alex Kurtzman. Paramount, however, continues funding his disasters. So enabled, Alex Kurtzman continued moving forward on one of his worst pet projects, Starfleet Academy.

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Ratings for the show are self-reported by Paramount and so can’t be relied on. However, most evidence suggests no one is watching it. Some estimates have its total viewership as being under a million. Fans hate it beyond all measure, and Starfleet Academy has some of the lowest audience scores of anything currently airing on streaming.

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Heroes Arose, But Alex Kurtzman Struck Them Down

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Developing in parallel with the Disco-verse was a Star Trek animated series called Lower Decks, helmed by Rick & Morty alum Mike McMahan. Mike McMahan is a serious, lifelong Star Trek fan, and while technically his show was produced under Alex Kurtzman’s auspices, all indications are that Kurtzman had nothing to do with Lower Decks.

That allowed McMahan to stack his staff with serious writing talent, who knew the genre and knew everything about Star Trek. They took Star Trek seriously, and as a result, Lower Decks was a huge success, and it had nothing at all to do with the Disco-verse.

Alex Kurtzman rewarded McMahan’s success by canceling his show after five seasons

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Tangential to the Disco-verse was the Picard-verse, a series vanity project Alex Kurtzman developed around Patrick Stewart’s Captain Picard character. The show was a disaster for two seasons until the third, when Paramount somehow convinced Kurtzman to turn the whole thing over to veteran TV showrunner and legit Star Trek fan Terry Matalas.

Matalas delivered the best Star Trek season of the modern Trek era. Matalas lobbied to be given more work, doing more Star Trek. Fans launched petitions to try and convince Paramount to hand the entire franchise over to him.

Alex Kurtzman, still with an iron grip on the franchise, responded by passing on Matalas and hiring more people who don’t like Star Trek to replace him on the franchise’s next projects, Section 31 and Starfleet Academy.

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And that’s the current state of Star Trek. We’re left with dancing Klingon boy bands and rainbow vomit. Sure, the .001% of humans who spent their formative years as theater kids may like it. Is that really a demographic worth pursuing? It’s like five people, and four of them are named Skylar.


Basically, it’s all Alex Kurtzman‘s fault.


This post was edited on 2/18/26 at 9:40 pm
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 2/18/26 at 9:55 pm to
Then there’s this article Giant Freaking Robot where Roger Avery met with Kurtzman, and offered to write Star Trek for free essentially.

Kurtzman doesn’t want to hire fans of Star Trek. He wants to pull. Rian Johnson and turn the franchise in its head.

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Avary told his story this week on The Joe Rogan Experience, saying of Alex Kurtzman, “I went in and met with the guy, I was like, I will write for scale. I will write on your new show. I just want to be part of it.”


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Kurtzman’s response was a hard no, and as Avary explains it, “He didn’t want anybody who had any kind of fondness for the original show. He wanted to do something new and create something new.”


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Or as Avary put it: “This dweeb Alex Kurtzman just comes along and s**ts all over everything… Starfleet Academy is an abomination. I could not get through three episodes of Discovery. It’s just awful, awful storytelling… Picard was terrible.”


Posted by Havoc
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Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:10 pm to
It’s incredible how this kind of shite is allowed to happen to this degree.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:10 pm to
Nothing in your quoted sections mention Strange New Worlds. Did the article just decide to skip over it? SNW is legit some of the best Star Trek, period, and have two seasons left to finish it out.
Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:25 pm to
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How Star Trek Was Destroyed By Hollywood


Was it created somewhere else?


Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:25 pm to
Mount is mentioned in the quotes above, and there's more on SNW in the linked article.
Posted by Jay Are
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Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:27 pm to
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Basically, it’s all Alex Kurtzman‘s fault.


So it was one guy's fault and the headline is some drama queen nonsense.
Posted by alajones
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Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:38 pm to
CBS, and I am assuming vicariously, Paramount, have been instituting diversity requirements in writer’s rooms for years. They don’t know anything about (whatever show subject matter, in this case, Star Trek) the subject of the show. So they write about what they know, and insert it into the story.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 2/18/26 at 10:42 pm to
I liked Strange New Worlds and Picard s3. But yeah this is pretty correct
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 2/18/26 at 11:34 pm to
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Nothing in your quoted sections mention Strange New Worlds. Did the article just decide to skip over it? SNW is legit some of the best Star Trek, period, and have two seasons left to finish it out.
It doesn’t fit the narrative.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 12:30 am to
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How Star Trek Was Destroyed By Hollywood


To be fair, it was also saved by Hollywood.

Without the success of the movies, none of the spinoffs get made. No TNG, no DS9, no Voyager, etc.
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 12:50 am to
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Alex Kurtzman


Turns down an academy award winning writer who happens to be a trekkie. Sounds just like him.
Posted by coolpapaboze
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 3:34 am to
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He wanted to do something new and create something new.
This seems to be a pattern in Hollywood. Take established IP, with an audience, a brand, etc, and gut it because you don't have any original ideas, or know your original idea can't stand on its own. This is like the Snow White debacle. "oh, we're going to change the story because it's out of date". No, it's a classic story beloved by millions, and it is that for a reason. If you want to tell a new story, tell a new story, but don't dress it in the skin of something people love and recognize and then shite all over that.

It's been proven again and again that there is a shite ton of money to be made in the industry by engaging with the build in audiences of these established IP franchises if you just cater to the audience that made these franchises what they are. It's basic business 101, but these morons think they know better and they drive these franchises into the ditch again and again.
Posted by Pauldingtiger
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 5:08 am to
Alex Kurtzman is supposedly out at Parmount due to the failure of Academy. No offense but the guy looks like a dweeb and everything he’s had direct and total influence over with Star Trek has been trash! Just more DEI failures of Hollywood!
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 5:13 am to
There there, no one is going to take your Jay-Den action figure away from you.

Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 5:48 am to
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Nothing in your quoted sections mention Strange New Worlds. Did the article just decide to skip over it? SNW is legit some of the best Star Trek, period, and have two seasons left to finish it out.


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It doesn’t fit the narrative.


There’s a section on SNW. It talks about how the series started off strong, but soon became silly.

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They created a spinoff called Star Trek: Strange New Worlds for Pike to rescue him from Discovery’s sinking ship. Though his new series was technically an extension of the Disco-verse, it quickly set out to differentiate itself from Discovery and the mistakes it had made.

Unfortunately, Alex Kurtzman was still in charge, and he simultaneously set out to make Strange New Worlds his own, which meant he made it stupid. He made it his stated mission to work only with people who didn’t actually like Star Trek, intending to hollow out the brand and wear it like a skinsuit.

So, instead of hiring serious science fiction writers who might have a fondness for Gene Roddenberry’s work, he hired Strange New Worlds and Discovery writers based on diversity quotas. Those writers, who care nothing about Star Trek or science fiction, then turned the show into a playground for theater kids rather than Star Trek fans. After a strong first-season debut, Star Trek: Strange New Worlds devolved into a series of joke episodes and ridiculous plot arcs, which chased away initially optimistic Trek fans.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 5:54 am to
Have you watched SNW?
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 5:59 am to
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Have you watched SNW?


I tried but soon lost interest. I can’t speak on the show as a whole, but the dialogue felt off to me.

People seem to like it though. So I may give it another shot in the future.
Posted by cypresstiger
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 6:07 am to
To be fair, it was also saved by Hollywood.

Without the success of the movies, none of the spinoffs get made. No TNG, no DS9, no Voyager, etc.
—Isn’t that the OP’s point? The declibe is real
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 6:07 am to
I can’t speak to the other shows, but the author is painting with a broad brush when addressing SNW. This last season does have a couple of episodes that are on the silly side and don’t fit with the overall show, but that’s not the show in its entirety. It’s actually pretty good and carries that Star Trek feel.
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