Is accelerationism a moral political strategy?

I've thought about this but from a religious perspective. If we know the end game, why do we fight to delay it? Just give it to them and bring on the rapture.

I think they will shoot some of us, work some to death in a camp, and some will go to re-education camp.

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It’s inevitable. Your moral outrage doesn’t change the math or the gravity of the situation. Driving off the fiscal cliff at 150 MPH or 75 MPH leads to the same end result.

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Yea I’ve been hearing about the debt crisis happening any day now for 25 years.

However, I tend to think the power brokers have figured out a “bend but don’t break” formula. Which in some ways is a lot worse. Instead of a massive financial crisis all happening at once, it’s a slow painful and designed death.

This is why demographic replacement is so important. They are hoping by the time we are in full default, it will be with a bunch of lower IQ serfs that they can much easier control and manage.

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Yea I’ve been hearing about the debt crisis happening any day now for 25 years.

However, I tend to think the power brokers have figured out a “bend but don’t break” formula. Which in some ways is a lot worse. Instead of a massive financial crisis all happening at once, it’s a slow painful and designed death.

This is why demographic replacement is so important. They are hoping by the time we are in full default, it will be with a bunch of lower IQ serfs that they can much easier control and manage.

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You will get no argument from me on that point. Yet whether the decline is being engineered through demographics is a separate claim from whether “accelerationism” is morally defensible.

Putting that issue aside, the narrower point I’m making is that postponement through continued debt accumulation is itself morally indefensible. It avoids near-term disruption by shifting the costs onto future generations who have no say in that decision.

It’s either boil the frogs slowly or hit them with a blow torch.

The latter strategy should get their attention.

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Suicidal apathy isn’t a viable strategy.

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I agree.

That is why I oppose continuing to saddle future generations with unsustainable debt.

That is suicidal moral apathy compounded with immoral interest.

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Just give it to them and bring on the rapture.

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Just as the framework/doctrine of the father, son, and holy spirit being co-eternal, co-eternal, and co-powerful and of the same substance in a single deity was developed in the 4th century…. The Rapture was a theological development of the 19th century. For 1800 years of Christianity, the concept of the rapture did not exist. The final judgement of the living and the dead was supposed to happen when Jesus comes to destroy and remake Heaven and earth and the saved would live on a newly rebuilt perfect earth with Jesus as the king.

Even the modern Christian concept of going to heaven when you die was a foreign concept. The dead were supposed to be asleep awaiting on Jesus to come to earth, and the dead in Christ and those still alive would float up to meet Jesus as he descended to earth, like an escort for a dignitary (they would escort Jesus all the way down to earth, not float up to heaven with Jesus).

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Your moral outrage doesn’t change the math or the gravity of the situation.

Driving off the fiscal cliff at 150 MPH or 75 MPH leads to the same end result.

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The crazy thing about the debt is how the entire world is held up by the US economy. So eventually when some day maybe this oft predicted future comes to pass, the whole world will collapse along with us.

So, at that point, every nation essentially will be in dire straits despite all the resources that existed the day before still existing. It will basically be a collective "let's all pretend something bad is happening just because the system we've been brainwashed to believe in tells us it is so."

I just have difficulty getting worked up over something that's so fake. The same people complaining about the debt also believe we are controlled by a handful of elites, including the bankers. If you believe that, then you know that they can crash the system anytime they want. They already have in 2008 and 2020.

So, getting worked up over the debt doesn't make much sense to me. People act like if we just tighten our belts then we can avoid the downfall. But when they will just crash the system whenever they want, what's the point? You're going to get screwed either way.

Until we get rid of the people controlling the system, it's pointless to worry about the health of the system.

At this point, the debt is simply something used to divide "true conservatives" from MAGA. There are more pressing issues, like removing the Marxists. The debt, a dam that isn't going to burst tomorrow, is something we can worry about after we deal with the immediate threat of illegals and democrats and all the evil they bring.

One day, the worries over the debt may come true. But while people are looking to the future, they are overlooking the present.

I believe that it is a legit idea, but since the progressives do not have power now, I believe we should skip to the last step.

There is nothing to be gained by clinging to the outdated ways and documents of the past.

Burn it down, but make it a controlled burn.

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If by that you mean Jesus’ ascent into heaven was “the” rapture

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No, not what I believe was the rapture. I think it was 30 AD. The romans set out to crush Christianity. Anyone admitting or found out to be Christian was killed. It goes something like a family would say take one of the family so that the others would escape the wrath. Something like that. I forget the details. I am far from a biblical scholar.