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A/I data centers are a solution looking for a problem
Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:05 pm
The bubble will burst when they realize that 70% of the band width is used by preteens playing video games, and folks use chatgpt less than once a week.
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:06 pm to Trevaylin
Data centers are a sign of the end times
Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:08 pm to Trevaylin
You should tell someone before we build a massive data center city in Greenland.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:09 pm to Trevaylin
But the demand for energy is keeping me busy AF.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:13 pm to Trevaylin
All I know is that there is no way that OEM's can satisfy demand for new gas turbine generators. Engineering firms are looking at buying used ones. The problem is there is a lot of junk worn slap out gas turbine generators on the market right now.
We had the same thing in 2000 with Enron involved in numerous combined cycle power plants which went belly up on money. Additionally, GE Frame 5's were all the rage for chemical plants and refineries to build cogen units.
By 2001 the market was flooded with unused surplus gas turbine generators, 20 MW and larger.
We had the same thing in 2000 with Enron involved in numerous combined cycle power plants which went belly up on money. Additionally, GE Frame 5's were all the rage for chemical plants and refineries to build cogen units.
By 2001 the market was flooded with unused surplus gas turbine generators, 20 MW and larger.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:25 pm to Trevaylin
The upside to this will be that the U.S. will fall in love with nuclear power again and there will be shite tons of new power sources.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:29 pm to Trevaylin
The bubble ain't bursting. They are going to start building the data centers in orbit to be powered via constant sunlight. AI is here to stay
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:31 pm to Trevaylin
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A/I data centers are a solution looking for a problem
Yup, they want it to be the new iPhone.
Lotta money going into it.
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and folks use chatgpt less than once a week.
Some parts are useful, in Software, and Chemistry for example.
But yea... the customer aspect of it...
Still a novelty.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:33 pm to Boodis Man
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The bubble ain't bursting. They are going to start building the data centers in orbit to be powered via constant sunlight. AI is here to stay
It's here for the long run, but there might be a slump before the real boom.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:41 pm to Narax
Has anybody explained how the a/I centers bill out their expenses and profit? I as a cell phone, video, pc, internet user already pays a bunch of money. Will the a/I just add on a surcharge to each of my bills like credit cards skim. Do I currently pay for 'cloud storage ' of my pictures?
nothing in life is free!
nothing in life is free!
Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:05 pm to Trevaylin
Communities should require whomever is building these Data Centers to build their own power plants.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:25 pm to Trevaylin
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The bubble will burst when they realize that 70% of the band width is used by preteens playing video games, and folks use chatgpt less than once a week
Lol.... yeah, "they" probably won't be able to figure that one out!
"They" are contemplating problems way way way way before us folks on internet message boards. No doubt they are using AI to plan around it.
As far as power, they will use the scaled down, mobile nuclear power sources. The major AI developers have already began securing these.
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:57 pm to Trevaylin
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Do I currently pay for 'cloud storage ' of my pictures?
Google sells ads to you, as well as your data.
Right now AI centers are non profitable.
They are licensing to some corporations, but that doesn't nearly offset the cost.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:57 pm to Trevaylin
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folks use chatgpt less than once a week.
Speak for yourself - Gemini is the best friend I ever had
Posted on 2/1/26 at 4:24 pm to Trevaylin
data centers are an albatross on communities, and only one getting rich off it, is the power company(who passes off the energy to citizens), data center owners, and politicians who allowed them.
they are an environmental monstrosity, and that's not counting the energy they will use and piss away. waste water, water, etc.
cities are trying to have secret meetings to get them passed, citizens are beginning to catch on and call them out.
they are an environmental monstrosity, and that's not counting the energy they will use and piss away. waste water, water, etc.
cities are trying to have secret meetings to get them passed, citizens are beginning to catch on and call them out.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 4:29 pm to Trevaylin
quote:.Well in their defense they might actually be smarter than you. They have made most computer hardware unaffordable. Gaming is a big industry. If they can't figure out how to profit off of their AI products they have a built in off ramp in leasing compute back to consumers. Can't afford a 3500 dollar desktop? They'll have it figured it out. They'll just charge you 60 a month for eternity to use their compute. You'll just have a low powered interface to interact with it. And that's just the backup plan.
The bubble will burst when they realize that 70% of the band width is used by preteens playing video games, and folks use chatgpt less than once a week.
Posted on 2/1/26 at 4:46 pm to Trevaylin
quote:Who knew TD posters have more insight than people entrenched in the space making 12-figure decisions
The bubble will burst when they realize that 70% of the band width is used by preteens playing video games
AI being in a "bubble" only relates to valuations and the reality that a massive amount of money was thrown away to start-ups with no real prospect of viability and no differentiated models
To imply usage the itself is going to go any direction other than way up (particularly in corporate application, which is going to dwarf personal usage pretty quickly) is delusion and/or obliviousness in the same way that it would be retarded to argue the dot com bubble would usher in an era of internet / ecommerce businesses becoming less integral (as opposed to being the backbone of the entire US economy)
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 2/1/26 at 4:50 pm to Trevaylin
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The bubble will burst when they realize that 70% of the band width is used by preteens playing video games, and folks use chatgpt less than once a week.
Where are you getting the 70% number?
What "video games" are preteens playing on LLMs?
And what does the frequency of someone using a product have to do with the overall demand. If everyone gets coffee once a week from a business, does it go belly up?
Posted on 2/1/26 at 4:52 pm to Trevaylin
They are a huge power consuming eyesore of a problem that Jeff Landry and Susan Bourgeois are spending hundreds of millions of state dollars to attract to consume ungodly amounts of water and drive up energy prices for consumers.
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