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How fake is the US economy?
Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:35 am
Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:35 am
A consumer based system seems like an unsustainable venture long term.
Secondary Question(s): How fake is the US stock market? Does our government prop it up in any capacity?
Secondary Question(s): How fake is the US stock market? Does our government prop it up in any capacity?
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:12 am to Rankest
There is a reason we are 38 Trillion in debt. If we stopped or significantly cut the government spending and handouts, bailouts, etc it would all crumble.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:16 am to Rankest
Lower the yearly U.S federal deficit by $500bil and the SP will crater 20% easy.
2024 and 2025 deficit was 1.8 trillion.
2024 and 2025 deficit was 1.8 trillion.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 5:52 am to Rankest
You know how everyone is always right when they say “buy the dip”? It didn’t used to be that easy. Draw your conclusions from that.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 6:56 am to Rankest
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How fake is the US stock market? Does our government prop it up in any capacity?
.Gov doesn’t have to. Those 70 million people that reflexively dump earnings into 401K / IRA monthly keep the US Stock market artificially pumped up just fine.
Every year .Gov prints a dollar for every 12 dollars in circulation.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:40 am to beaverfever
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You know how everyone is always right when they say “buy the dip”? It didn’t used to be that easy. Draw your conclusions from that.
When in the history of the US was it ever not prudent to buy the dip?
Maybe I’m misunderstanding.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:06 am to ronricks
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There is a reason we are 38 Trillion in debt. If we stopped or significantly cut the government spending and handouts, bailouts, etc it would all crumble.
Quoted for Truth. GDP growth has happened for most YoY's since 2008 only because of deficit spending and now deficits are $2T+ annually for the foreseeable future. That's not sustainable.
The only thing saving us from going down as fast as the Weimar Republic is that the USD is the primary world reserve currency, the US federal government still pays its debts (for now) and the petrodollar.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:25 am to Rankest
Its been fake since the 08 "recovery"
Posted on 1/20/26 at 9:43 am to Rankest
The consumer has been driving our economy for quite a while.
A house of cards, but still standing.
A house of cards, but still standing.
Posted on 1/20/26 at 10:21 am to Rankest
The boomers will tell you it’s all real because they benefit from it
The truth is that we’ve been in hyperinflation since 2003 or so
The truth is that we’ve been in hyperinflation since 2003 or so
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:02 pm to Rankest
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How fake is the US stock market?
Does it really matter?
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Does our government prop it up in any capacity?
YOU mean by creating policies or bailouts?
Posted on 1/21/26 at 12:24 pm to slackster
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When in the history of the US was it ever not prudent to buy the dip?
Many tech stocks who survived the .com crash never really recovered. The 70’s was a “lost decade” for the stock market across the board.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:35 pm to Decisions
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Many tech stocks who survived the .com crash never really recovered. The 70’s was a “lost decade” for the stock market across the board.
I’m aware, but buying the dip was still incredibly prudent during those periods as well.
If the intent was to suggest downturns used to last longer, that’s a different story, but that’s not what I understood it to mean.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 7:24 am to Rankest
All of you who are paid social media influencers working for Left Wing/Anti Capitalist/Socialist/Communist/Anti Trump or Foreign entities raise your hands.
This whole thread makes my head hurt.

This whole thread makes my head hurt.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 7:50 am to Rankest
Try the World Economy. Every major industry is essentially a scam
Posted on 1/22/26 at 7:51 am to Rankest
The US economy as it relates to the stock market is as fake or real as any other intangible human construct. Think of it like a non-governmental social contract, for lack of a better term. I also feel like the 80/20 rule applies, as it applies to most everything in life. 80% is real, and 20% is fake.
This post was edited on 1/22/26 at 7:53 am
Posted on 1/22/26 at 10:08 pm to Rankest
Not too sure. GDP was 30.5 trillion last year. Debt to gdp is a better measure of a country’s economic strength. I won’t mention china’s but it’s worse.
If the economy can expand beyond the increase of yearly deficits, that is a net gain. This only works on an expanding economy.
If the economy can expand beyond the increase of yearly deficits, that is a net gain. This only works on an expanding economy.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 4:52 am to el Gaucho
quote:Goodness
The boomers will tell you
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